fathom Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Jose just can't get anything into the air right now. Fastballs in, offspeed away is the clear scouting report on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 5, 2015 -> 07:43 PM) No, it's called I don't care about the stat. I know Avi won't be hitting .340 and probably not even hit .290. But currently he has been our best hitter average wise the last 10 or so games. Trust me, I know his average is going to drop a lot, I would be happy if he ended up hitting over .270 for the year. I don't need a stupid stat to tell me he won't hit .330+ for the year, that is just common sense by watching him hit Why take issue with me then? All I said he's he's currently hitting .340 and worth 0.0 WAR and that I worry about his value when that inevitably crashes. The only differences are that you use your "common sense" and I use my "stupid stat" to foresee that decline, and that you'd be happy with him hitting .270 and I think he'd be a total liability at anything close to that if nothing else changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ May 5, 2015 -> 07:48 PM) Again, aren't you going into baseball? Wouldn't a metric with predictive value have utility for your career when evaluating the fruit of your labor? EDIT: Just because you don't understand something that doesn't make it stupid. Taking my ball and going home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 5, 2015 -> 09:43 PM) No, it's called I don't care about the stat. I know Avi won't be hitting .340 and probably not even hit .290. But currently he has been our best hitter average wise the last 10 or so games. Trust me, I know his average is going to drop a lot, I would be happy if he ended up hitting over .270 for the year. I don't need a stupid stat to tell me he won't hit .330+ for the year, that is just common sense by watching him hit Dude why argue? You ain't gonna win. No matter what. Its metrics or the highway with him... I say the same WHO CARES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ May 5, 2015 -> 08:48 PM) Again, aren't you going into baseball? Wouldn't a metric with predictive value have utility for your career when evaluating the fruit of your labor? EDIT: Just because you don't understand something that doesn't make it stupid. I'm not going into that. I do understand the stat. I'm not an advanced stat guy, what is so wrong with that? I think it is an irrelevant stat. I feel like I can watch the game and see how a player is hitting the ball (how hard he is hitting, what his base hits are like, etc.) and tell if he will hit well or if his average will sustain or not. I know a lot of people now like advanced stats but I just don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 The definitive word on Avisail's BABIP Not as inflated as you might think. Line drives aren't luck except to the extent that you get to make your own luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Det pen doing the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (Jake @ May 5, 2015 -> 07:52 PM) The definitive word on Avisail's BABIP Not as inflated as you might think. Line drives aren't luck except to the extent that you get to make your own luck. Nah, high line-drive rates aren't sustainable, their year-to-year correlation is the worst among the most common hitting metrics, and they tend to regress to career average. A look at how hard he's hitting the ball indicates that he's not hitting it harder than his career averages, suggesting a lot of softly and medium-hit line drives, which will start to dry up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ May 5, 2015 -> 08:56 PM) I hope you have a backup plan in place. Lol ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 5, 2015 -> 06:41 PM) The whole point of this is that the statistic tells you it's due to drop. You're essentially saying "I don't understand why this high thing is about to become lower so I'll say it's good when it's high and bad when it's low". Some people don't give a rat's arse about that. You're just basically raining on our parade of seeing the one Sox player with a high BA. Let us enjoy the one good high average guy while it last. Yes it's due to drop thank u very much . All we hear is this guy is sucking and the one guy not sucking you're saying wait he will suck. Some of you guys just can't just watch and enjoy the game because it's baseball and the Sox. That's enough for some of us without repeatedly hearing it's a mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 All of you, shut up. We are up three in a baseball game, and we have the best closer in baseball that never gets to pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Whelp that escalated quickly! Hey we're winning! Let's enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Heads layeth the smack down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 5, 2015 -> 09:02 PM) Some people don't give a rat's arse about that. You're just basically raining on our parade of seeing the one Sox player with a high BA. Let us enjoy the one good high average guy while it last. Yes it's due to drop thank u very much . All we hear is this guy is sucking and the one guy not sucking you're saying wait he will suck. Some of you guys just can't just watch and enjoy the game because it's baseball and the Sox. That's enough for some of us without repeatedly hearing it's a mirage. Basically what he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 5, 2015 -> 08:02 PM) Some people don't give a rat's arse about that. You're just basically raining on our parade of seeing the one Sox player with a high BA. Let us enjoy the one good high average guy while it last. Yes it's due to drop thank u very much . All we hear is this guy is sucking and the one guy not sucking you're saying wait he will suck. Some of you guys just can't just watch and enjoy the game because it's baseball and the Sox. That's enough for some of us without repeatedly hearing it's a mirage. What makes you say I'm not enjoying Avi hitting .340? In fact I think I'm enjoying it even more because I know it's lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 5, 2015 -> 10:02 PM) Some people don't give a rat's arse about that. You're just basically raining on our parade of seeing the one Sox player with a high BA. Let us enjoy the one good high average guy while it last. Yes it's due to drop thank u very much . All we hear is this guy is sucking and the one guy not sucking you're saying wait he will suck. Some of you guys just can't just watch and enjoy the game because it's baseball and the Sox. That's enough for some of us without repeatedly hearing it's a mirage. Thank you!!!! HELL OF A POST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Didn't think he caught it in real time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Alexei needs to get it going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ May 5, 2015 -> 09:06 PM) It all evens out though. For instance, we should see plenty of improvement from Adam Eaton who could serve as a catalyst for the offense in front of Melky/Abreu/LaRoche. That'd better serve us than Avi hitting singles in front of the crappy bottom of the order. If the guys you mentioned above start getting one base more those Avi singles will turn into Avi RBI singles. Nobody expects Eaton to hit under .200 all year, that is just baseball. Players slump, run into bad luck, get really lucky, see the ball well at times, etc. The game is full of streaks. That is why we all love the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (reiks12 @ May 5, 2015 -> 08:09 PM) Alexei needs to get it going This entire team does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 He caught the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ May 5, 2015 -> 07:06 PM) It all evens out though. For instance, we should see plenty of improvement from Adam Eaton who could serve as a catalyst for the offense in front of Melky/Abreu/LaRoche. That'd better serve us than Avi hitting singles in front of the crappy bottom of the order. And again you're not telling most of us something we don't already know. I have been watching baseball for close to 50 yrs and not casually watching . Carefully watching. The guys sucking now will get better and guys doing well will drop but I take no enjoyment thinking I'm so smart to predict that. It's baseball 101 until a guy like Avi puts in a few more years so we can get a clearer picture of what to expect from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 5, 2015 -> 09:04 PM) Heads layeth the smack down I DONT GET TO ENJOY THIS MUCH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Can Robertson go 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Pitch looked good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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