Dick Allen Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 According to Rober Feder, the White Sox radio deal with the Score expires after this season. JR is negotiating with the Score, WLS, and WGN on the next contract. He says if the Sox leave the Score, CBS could move the Cubs from WBBM to the Score. It would be pretty funny if the White Sox wound up on WGN and the Cubs the Score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 8, 2015 -> 04:07 PM) According to Rober Feder, the White Sox radio deal with the Score expires after this season. JR is negotiating with the Score, WLS, and WGN on the next contract. He says if the Sox leave the Score, CBS could move the Cubs from WBBM to the Score. It would be pretty funny if the White Sox wound up on WGN and the Cubs the Score. what i am about to say, mean no negative reflection on the owners group. $$$ money, who will offer the most $$$ i am really surprise the sox owners never thought of buying a radio station like wgn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I have a gut feeling well be leaving the score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 8, 2015 -> 10:25 AM) I have a gut feeling well be leaving the score. It depends on the deal, but if they are similar financially, I agree. Too much anti-Sox for the Score to be the Sox flagship. I wonder how much future possible Bulls radio rights will be going into playing nice with JR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 8, 2015 -> 03:46 PM) It depends on the deal, but if they are similar financially, I agree. Too much anti-Sox for the Score to be the Sox flagship. I wonder how much future possible Bulls radio rights will be going into playing nice with JR. excellent point, i can see the bulls and sox in a group contract, and why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 8, 2015 -> 10:25 AM) I have a gut feeling well be leaving the score. Score would die to have the cubs and most likely is going cheap on Sox to get them. WGN would be interesting but I think they will end up on WMVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Score would die to have the cubs and most likely is going cheap on Sox to get them. They already have the Cubs. WBBM and WSCR are both owned by CBS Radio, moving the Cubs to WSCR would be easy. I hope it happens, BRING BACK TRAFFIC AND WEATHER TOGETHER ON THE 8'S. That reason, plus the current lead-in the White Sox is a 5 hour promotional spot for the Cubs. I'm tired of hearing how Theo Epstein has assembled the '27 Yankees for a couple hours before Ranger suddenly starts talking about the Sox like he doesnt care. WMVP lost a lot of money on the Sox last go around and wont be doing it again. The Chairman is not a fan of them either, their signal barely makes it to Gary. I dont want Savage Nation (BARF) leading into the White Sox on the rotting hulk of WLS. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid. WGN is both my prediction and my hope as the new flagship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 what i am about to say, mean no negative reflection on the owners group. $$$ money, who will offer the most $$$ i am really surprise the sox owners never thought of buying a radio station like wgn. Because you want a clear channel station for it and those cost quite a bit of money. Plus you have to program 24 hours worth of crap year 'round. The only nationally syndicated stuff that gets ratings (conservative talk radio) is not really something you want to align yourself with in a city like Chicago, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ May 8, 2015 -> 07:00 PM) Because you want a clear channel station for it and those cost quite a bit of money. Plus you have to program 24 hours worth of crap year 'round. The only nationally syndicated stuff that gets ratings (conservative talk radio) is not really something you want to align yourself with in a city like Chicago, either. that is if they, lets say for this discussion, the new owners want to redo the whole programing. all they have to do is to change a couple of things to accommodate a new customer, that customer will be soxs baseball. the revenue would be too nice to pass up, plus all the tax write off for being a owner of a sub company of the sox corp. btw, wgn has that power, trust me on that. i hear wgn 15 yrs ago at night. with the internet world, it can expand it. ```` sheesh talk about a run on sentence. whew. Edited May 8, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 New pbp guy with DJ would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Safe to say that WSCR won't have Sox games beyond this contract. Not sure if that means the Cubs are coming or not or staying WBBM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) i am in a sticky wicket, a confuse state, in a dilemma or a quandary, of the radio station. i get angry with the sox owners for not spending enuf, but here i want them to buy a radio station, Edited May 9, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I don't care if they end up on Que Buena 105.1 as long as Ed Farmer remains in the booth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheDriversSeat Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) I don't care if they end up on Que Buena 105.1 as long as Ed Farmer remains in the booth. I think the Sox already are on 105.1 WOJO, but in Spanish if you have an HD radio. The Sox' Spanish radio station, AM 1200 WRTO is simulcast on 105.1 WOJO-HD3. And you can hear Ed Farmer on 104.3 WJMK using an HD radio because AM 670 WSCR is simulcast on 104.3 WJMK-HD2. Sox games were broadcast in English on 105.1 during the 1971 & 1972 seasons when the station was known as WEAW-FM Evanston, transmitting in mono from John Hancock Center. The announcers were Harry Carey and Ralph Faucher. During 1971 & 1972, Sox games were broadcast on the following Chicago area radio stations: FM 105.1 WEAW-FM Evanston/Chicago AM 1300 WTAQ LaGrange/Chicago FM 96.7 WJOL-FM Joliet FM 103.9 WVFV Dundee FM 106.3 WLNR Lansing AM 1330 WEAW Evanston (day games only on weekends) Safe to say that WSCR won't have Sox games beyond this contract. Not sure if that means the Cubs are coming or not or staying WBBM. I would not assume that the Sox are leaving WSCR. Jerry will decide based on whoever pays the most money. btw, wgn has that power, trust me on that. i hear wgn 15 yrs ago at night. with the internet world, it can expand it. No radio stations are allowed to stream MLB baseball games on their websites. MLB wants to collect revenue for that on MLB Gameday Audio, or Sirius and XM subscribers can listen online. Of course anyone get just use a radio and listen for free. They already have the Cubs. WBBM and WSCR are both owned by CBS Radio, moving the Cubs to WSCR would be easy. I hope it happens, BRING BACK TRAFFIC AND WEATHER TOGETHER ON THE 8'S. Even though both WSCR and WBBM are owned by the same company, I don't think the Cubs would move to WSCR if WSCR loses the White Sox. Cubs broadcasts on WBBM enhances the station that already has excellent ratings. For listeners that still want to hear news, traffic and weather, the FM simulcast of WBBM on 105.9 WCFS-FM Elmwood Park/Chicago is separated during Cubs games. Sometimes ownership prefers to have their team on WBBM and not on WSCR, which is the case with the Bears who would not allow their games to be broadcast on WSCR. WMVP lost a lot of money on the Sox last go around and wont be doing it again. The Chairman is not a fan of them either, their signal barely makes it to Gary. Actually WMVP has an excellent signal in the entire Chicago metro area. The station is a 50,000 watt clear channel, however AM 1000 WMVP has a different pattern /classification type than the other clear channels (670, 720, 780, and 890). WMVP can not reach some distant states at night because the frequency, AM 1000 is also used by 50,000 watt clear channel stations in Seattle and Mexico City. That's not the case with WSCR, WGN, WBBM, or WLS. I dont want Savage Nation (BARF) leading into the White Sox on the rotting hulk of WLS. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid. WGN is both my prediction and my hope as the new flagship Anything is possible, but I doubt that WLS will have the Sox. The company that owns WLS, Cumulus Media, has made numerous new hires at WLS and other FM stations it owns in Chicago, but Cumulus is known as a very cheap company. I would say the Sox end up on WGN or WSCR, whoever pays the most money. Apparently WGN wanted to keep the Cubs, but WGN was outbid by WBBM, so WGN may still have an interest in airing baseball games. Edited May 14, 2015 by InTheDriversSeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 http://www.southsidesox.com/2015/5/10/8581...p-up-in-the-air Pluses and minuses of the three competing stations involved... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Even though both WSCR and WBBM are owned by the same company, I don't think the Cubs would move to WSCR if WSCR loses the White Sox. Cubs broadcasts on WBBM enhances the station that already has excellent ratings. For listeners that still want to hear news, traffic and weather, the FM simulcast of WBBM on 105.9 WCFS-FM Elmwood Park/Chicago is separated during Cubs games. Sometimes ownership prefers to have their team on WBBM and not on WSCR, which is the case with the Bears who would not allow their games to be broadcast on WSCR. Actually WMVP has an excellent signal in the entire Chicago metro area. The station is a 50,000 watt clear channel, however AM 1000 WMVP has a different pattern /classification type than the other clear channels (670, 720, 780, and 890). WMVP can not reach some distant states at night because the frequency, AM 1000 is also used by 50,000 watt clear channel stations in Seattle and Mexico City. That's not the case with WSCR, WGN, WBBM, or WLS. Anything is possible, but I doubt that WLS will have the Sox. The company that owns WLS, Cumulus Media, has made numerous new hires at WLS and other FM stations it owns in Chicago, but Cumulus is known as a very cheap company. I would say the Sox end up on WGN or WSCR, whoever pays the most money. Apparently WGN wanted to keep the Cubs, but WGN was outbid by WBBM, so WGN may still have an interest in airing baseball games. There's a big difference between the 16 Bears games a year and the 162 Cubs games a year. CBS obviously wanted to get in on the Cubs so they bit the bullet and put the Cubs on WBBM, but afternoon drivers who aren't Cubs fans will eventually go elsewhere. They have the FM station but its easier to just run over to the WGN preset on a daily basis than go through the arduous of finding 105.9 on the FM dial and setting a whole new preset that you have to change bandwiths to even use. It's bad for WBBM long-term to continue broadcasting Cubs day games, it muddies their role. The Cubs are unlikely to have a problem being put on WSCR with an afternoon driver show that deifies them. WMVP might have the wattage to make it past Aurora but the signal is garbage. The quality blows and runs in and out if you're within 100 yards of a bridge or telephone line. That's not the case with WGN or WSCR, I dont remember WLS being a problem but I wouldn't be caught dead listening to WLS nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheDriversSeat Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) There's a big difference between the 16 Bears games a year and the 162 Cubs games a year. CBS obviously wanted to get in on the Cubs so they bit the bullet and put the Cubs on WBBM, but afternoon drivers who aren't Cubs fans will eventually go elsewhere. They have the FM station but its easier to just run over to the WGN preset on a daily basis than go through the arduous of finding 105.9 on the FM dial and setting a whole new preset that you have to change bandwiths to even use. The Bears refused to have their games on WSCR because Bears ownership does not want their team on a station that could criticize their team. The same reason applies to the Cubs, plus the Cubs likely want their games on a station that gets better ratings. With the most recent Nielsen ratings, WBBM(AM) has more than double the amount of listeners as WSCR. It is really not difficult to tune to FM 105.9 at all. Any listener within the Chicago area should be able to handle that. It's bad for WBBM long-term to continue broadcasting Cubs day games, it muddies their role. The Cubs are unlikely to have a problem being put on WSCR with an afternoon driver show that deifies them. That's your opinion, but management at WBBM wanted the Cubs. I doubt the Cubs would move to another station owned by CBS Radio. Likely the contract requires for the games to air only on 780 WBBM, and any change to the contract requires the approval of both parties. And this is not the first time that WBBM has carried baseball. The White Sox aired on NewsRadio 780 WBBM in 1981 and 1982. WMVP might have the wattage to make it past Aurora but the signal is garbage. The quality blows and runs in and out if you're within 100 yards of a bridge or telephone line. That's not the case with WGN or WSCR, I dont remember WLS being a problem but I wouldn't be caught dead listening to WLS nowadays. LOL, WMVP's signal isn't garbage. The station has one of the best AM signals in the Chicago area. Perhaps the radio that you are using is garbage? The straight line distance from Aurora to WMVP's towers in Downers Grove is 16 miles. You shouldn't have any problem receiving WMVP from that location. Doesn't matter anyways because WMVP is not bidding on the Sox according to Robert Feder. Edited May 14, 2015 by InTheDriversSeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 QUOTE (InTheDriversSeat @ May 14, 2015 -> 12:15 AM) Doesn't matter anyways because WMVP is not bidding on the Sox according to Robert Feder. nice info, many thanks. btw any idea on who is in the running for the sox ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheDriversSeat Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 btw any idea on who is in the running for the sox ? According to Robert Feder: 670 WSCR, 720 WGN, and 890 WLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 WSCR is never going to criticize the Cubs. Ricketts and Kenney made sure of that a little more than a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ May 14, 2015 -> 01:33 AM) WSCR is never going to criticize the Cubs. Ricketts and Kenney made sure of that a little more than a year ago. how??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 how??? Crane Kenney is the "source" for a lot of the Cubs propaganda on WSCR from Bernstein & Co. Probably came about when the Cubs moved to CBS Radio. The new business relationship and the access provided by Kenney has made the Cubs basically bulletproof in the eyes of that station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GamesToLove Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 WMVP's signal was awful. I'm from Oswego and it was a nightmare. Live in rural Kane County now and it's a little better but not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ May 11, 2015 -> 09:18 AM) WMVP might have the wattage to make it past Aurora but the signal is garbage. The quality blows and runs in and out if you're within 100 yards of a bridge or telephone line. QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ May 14, 2015 -> 08:00 AM) WMVP's signal was awful. I'm from Oswego and it was a nightmare. Live in rural Kane County now and it's a little better but not much. I'll 3rd this sentiment. I hated when the Sox games were on that station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ May 14, 2015 -> 03:59 AM) Crane Kenney is the "source" for a lot of the Cubs propaganda on WSCR from Bernstein & Co. Probably came about when the Cubs moved to CBS Radio. The new business relationship and the access provided by Kenney has made the Cubs basically bulletproof in the eyes of that station. i owe you an apology, i was totally wrong in my thinking. i was seeing Kenney and i actually thought you were referring to KW. that is why i was lost. sorry and thanks for the correction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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