Feeky Magee Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) From Fangraphs' Fringe Five Prospects: Junior Guerra, RHP, Chicago AL (Profile) There are a number of comments one can make regarding the right-handed Guerra which are both (a) entirely factual but also (b) largely improbable in context with each other. Here’s a selection of such comments, in no particular order: He made his Triple-A debut last week. He’s 30 years old. He regularly hits 95 mph as a starter. His secondary pitches are at least average. He pitched professionally in Spain and Wichita. He’s produced the sixth-best strikeout rate in the minors. The White Sox signed Guerra to a minor-league deal this offseason out of the Italian League. He’s produced strikeout and walk rates of 36.6% and 6.5%, respectively, over 24.2 innings between Double- and Triple-A. Below is an example of his changeup, which 86-mph pitch he’s using to strike out Cleveland prospect James Ramsey http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-fringe-...e-prospects-44/ His 2015: 11.9 K/9 to 1.8 BB/9 at Birmingham, 2.29 ERA 13.1 K/9 to 4.1 BB/9 at Charlotte, 2.45 ERA Could we see him in Chicago this year? Edited May 14, 2015 by Feeky Magee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 He's got to have an interesting life story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I was asking about him last night. timely. Thanks Sounds better than some of the guys on the ML roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 Brewers promoted him to their major league roster. Annoying we lost him for nothing for no real reason, could have been a contender for our 5th starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 4, 2016 -> 09:10 AM) Brewers promoted him to their major league roster. Annoying we lost him for nothing for no real reason, could have been a contender for our 5th starter. If he was the White Sox 5th starter, they would be looking for a 5th starter. He couldn't make the Brewers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Any time I see this type of thing happen, all I have to do is think of how I learned not to put too much faith into AAA numbers, versus actual stuff. I picked Jeff Bajenaru over Bobby Jenks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 4, 2016 -> 01:24 PM) If he was the White Sox 5th starter, they would be looking for a 5th starter. He couldn't make the Brewers. Interesting, because he's now 3-0 through 5 starts with a 3.30 ERA, 3.14 FIP, 3.76 SIERA, 9 K/9, 3.6 BB/9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/32511/chris-devenski And another former Sox prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 25, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) Interesting, because he's now 3-0 through 5 starts with a 3.30 ERA, 3.14 FIP, 3.76 SIERA, 9 K/9, 3.6 BB/9. The Sox didn't want to lose him. They tried to sneak him off the 40 man roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) And yet they've protected lots of marginal players over the last 3-4 years. Surely, the Mets and Yankees didn't want to lose Quintana, but he got caught up in a numbers game and then the PEDs stuff as well. Of course, the odds of Guerra having a career war in the same vicinity as Jose are approximately 1 in 500,000. Edited May 26, 2016 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 26, 2016 -> 08:41 AM) The Sox didn't want to lose him. They tried to sneak him off the 40 man roster. Don't think there was even much need to. If I recall correctly it was at about 37 men at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 26, 2016 -> 08:41 AM) The Sox didn't want to lose him. They tried to sneak him off the 40 man roster. They didn't try very hard, considering some of the stiffs on the 40 man. Cooper didn't want a thing to do with Guerra....but he kept Noesi around for a year and is always willing to pitch Scott Carroll This org. can't even properly evaluate its own players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 I know I'm obsessed but whatever. price on junior guerra is "higher than cashner." and should be. 7-2, 2.70, plus 5 yrs control. #crew not anxious to deal https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/759366617100845056 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ May 26, 2016 -> 07:16 PM) They didn't try very hard, considering some of the stiffs on the 40 man. Cooper didn't want a thing to do with Guerra....but he kept Noesi around for a year and is always willing to pitch Scott Carroll This org. can't even properly evaluate its own players. s*** like this happens. They lost this guy. They also signed Quintana and Miguel Gonzalez for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 06:49 AM) s*** like this happens. They lost this guy. They also signed Quintana and Miguel Gonzalez for nothing. It happens when you don't particularly value fantastic minor league stats because of silly baseball truisms. We all know about Quintana, which was obviously great, but was also years ago. And Guerra has pitched significantly better than, and has 5x the team control of Gonzalez, hence the different trade interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 08:01 AM) It happens when you don't particularly value fantastic minor league stats because of silly baseball truisms. We all know about Quintana, which was obviously great, but was also years ago. And Guerra has pitched significantly better than, and has 5x the team control of Gonzalez, hence the different trade interest. Plus, Guerra has significantly outpitched Gonzalez. Controlling Guerra, watching him dominate Charlotte, calling him up and barely letting him pitch despite plenty of room in the rotation and pen and then dumping him, is just another symptom of this underperforming organization. Edited July 30, 2016 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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