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GAME THREAD 5/15 - SOX @ OAK


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QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 16, 2015 -> 04:47 AM)
6IP last game. That homer f***ed him up tonight, he was cruising until then. He needs to understand his stuff is good enough to challenge teams

 

He got away from his slider, and then started hanging it

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 15, 2015 -> 10:45 PM)
IN may the Sox are 2nd in the AL in batting average and 11th in runs scored. A huge improvement.

Also a huge gap. Bottom tier in runs scored when you're 2nd in batting in a home run park suggests a problem.

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QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2015 -> 08:47 PM)
I will never understand why they rushed him this year. He was struggling to throw strikes in a few of his Charlotte outings (one exhibition included)

I've not seen him much, but he sure as hell doesn't look ready.

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QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2015 -> 10:47 PM)
I will never understand why they rushed him this year. He was struggling to throw strikes in a few of his Charlotte outings (one exhibition included)

I do not agree. He's ready, you have to give him innings in the majors while the Sox do not appear to be a real contender. He has the talent to succeed and be incredible in the next couple of years.

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 15, 2015 -> 08:50 PM)
I do not agree. He's ready, you have to give him innings in the majors while the Sox do not appear to be a real contender. He has the talent to succeed and be incredible in the next couple of years.

Well which is it?

 

Send Micah down because we want to compete, but get Rodon the innings because we are not competitive?

 

 

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QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2015 -> 10:47 PM)
I will never understand why they rushed him this year. He was struggling to throw strikes in a few of his Charlotte outings (one exhibition included)

This org is simply dreadful at evaluating and developing players. I doubt it changes with Williams and Bell running the show in perpetuity.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ May 15, 2015 -> 10:51 PM)
Well which is it?

 

Send Micah down because we want to compete, but get Rodon the innings because we are not competitive?

Different situations. Micah's defense was not major league ready. I think Rodon is. Plus I was not an advocate of sending him down but you have to since our SS isnt covering for his defensive ineptitude.

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QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ May 15, 2015 -> 08:52 PM)
He needs major league experience. Dominating AAA can only go so far. There will be growing pains, relax

Come on, it's not as if he's been so incredibly dominant for some prolonged period of time down there.

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 15, 2015 -> 08:53 PM)
Different situations. Micah's defense was not major league ready. I think Rodon is. Plus I was not an advocate of sending him down but you have to since our SS isnt covering for his defensive ineptitude.

I guess I disagree...it just seems like if a guy can't play 2b by the time he's ready for AAA, he's not going to suddenly improve by leaps and bounds because he goes down to Charlotte as opposed to playing in Chicago.

 

The ground balls are still hit pretty hard in AAA.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ May 16, 2015 -> 04:50 AM)
You seemed fine with it when he was cruising through 3.

 

 

He hung one slider and paid the price.

 

I have been saying they rushed him since they called him up. Just didn't make sense from a development stage. I was happy they only kept him in the bullpen for a few weeks.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ May 15, 2015 -> 10:55 PM)
I guess I disagree...it just seems like if a guy can't play 2b by the time he's ready for AAA, he's not going to suddenly improve by leaps and bounds.

I dont think it was totally necessary to send him down but I understand it.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ May 15, 2015 -> 08:55 PM)
He's an elite talent. You don't hold everyone to the same development chart.

 

Carroll and Canha having a battle.

He's an elite talent that gets his feathers ruffled because he gave up a home run to Josh Phegley?

 

 

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 16, 2015 -> 04:54 AM)
Do you not think his stuff is ready?

 

Slider is all world. Fastball is above average but he needs to be able to throw it for strikes. I don't think he will ever be a big changeup thrower.

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