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GAME THREAD 5/15 - SOX @ OAK


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Angel Hernandez is terrible.

 

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 15, 2015 -> 08:35 PM)
It was a challenge trade. I'm fine with that. I mean, look at the trade the As made to GET him. Now that is an awful f***ing trade. Sure the timing affected the return but still -- Semien is no Russell.

What does that even mean? It was a bad trade. Semien would have been more valuable to this year's Sox, never mind for the next 5 years.

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QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 15, 2015 -> 09:38 PM)
Angel Hernandez is terrible.

 

 

What does that even mean? It was a bad trade. Semien would have been more valuable to this year's Sox, never mind for the next 5 years.

 

Dealt from a position of strength to try and fill a weakness. I don't think anyone thinks Semiens power is sustainable.

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QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 15, 2015 -> 10:38 PM)
Angel Hernandez is terrible.

 

 

What does that even mean? It was a bad trade. Semien would have been more valuable to this year's Sox, never mind for the next 5 years.

 

that's hindsight. ZIPS had around 3.0 for shark and 2.0 for Marcus. On paper, with lack of rotation options and more middlie infielders than starters, they made a move to try and get an extra win this year while still looking long term to sign shark.

 

If it doesn't work out with Shark they get the comp pick, which I believe is pegged at around a value of 5-7 million. If you want to talk BABIP and Semien go ahead. His batting line is hugely inflated by it. Take 50 points off his line and he's down to a .303 OBP. We'll see if the power sticks. Marcus is a nice player, but he's hardly some surefire star.

 

a challenge trade is a fairly common term for this type of deal -- where guys that are talented but for whatever reason aren't in favor in the org (money, performance, etc) are traided as the main pieces in a deal.

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QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 15, 2015 -> 09:41 PM)
Dealt from a position of strength to try and fill a weakness. I don't think anyone thinks Semiens power is sustainable.

Sox hopefully will deal from strength again because Johnson/Sanchez cannot play on this team at the same time.

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QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 15, 2015 -> 08:41 PM)
Dealt from a position of strength to try and fill a weakness. I don't think anyone thinks Semiens power is sustainable.

It's a position of strength in terms of quantity, not quality. Why wouldn't it be sustainable? His .ISO at AAA last year was .234. It's currently .213.

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QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 15, 2015 -> 09:44 PM)
Sox hopefully will deal from strength again because Johnson/Sanchez cannot play on this team at the same time.

I'll be surprised if Carlos doesn't stay up the rest of the year. I don't think they deal either, though.

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