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QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jun 3, 2015 -> 02:02 AM)
Amazing what happens to debuting rookies when you don't throw 90 MPH fastballs to them right down the middle

 

Usually big strong guys who strike out a ton struggle with offspeed pitches

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2015 -> 08:00 PM)
So you're saying they could use a 3 month rental right handed starter....

 

We can give them back Noesi, lol.

 

It's pretty incredible. They're missing Darvish, Neftali Feliz, Ross Detwiler, Harrison, Holland and Martin Perez, yet a playoff-contending team.

 

The White Sox couldn't even lose one of their top four starters and not be 10-15 games under .500.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2015 -> 10:03 PM)
So you are saying teams that want to trade for Samardjiza will only look at his ERA and not his advanced numbers?

His advanced numbers coming into today were the worst of his career since he became a starter. Frankly his HR rate was actually a bit low coming into today so yeah.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2015 -> 09:07 PM)
His advanced numbers coming into today were the worst of his career since he became a starter. Frankly his HR rate was actually a bit low coming into today so yeah.

So they will just look at the ERA and trade off that. OK. Hahn will just take the draft pick.

 

I just looked it up, his FIP coming in was the best of his career as a starter before tonight except for last season. Now it is the worst, but barely. His k rate is down one a game, switch to AL could explain that. Frankly, maybe this is just what he is. I have never been a fan, but hopefully he could get on a roll like he was on when the Cubs dealt him.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2015 -> 08:09 PM)
So they will just look at the ERA and trade off that. OK. Hahn will just take the draft pick.

 

 

Unless he pitches so terribly that it becomes such a risk to give $15+ million for one year that he actually takes it...waiting for a rebound season so that he can re-establish his value for the big 4-6 year deal.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2015 -> 10:09 PM)
So they will just look at the ERA and trade off that. OK. Hahn will just take the draft pick.

And then we can congratulate ourselves on turning 4 upper-level minor leaguers into a $10 million bill, a poor season, and a sandwich pick with a good chance of never making the upper levels of the minors.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 2, 2015 -> 09:12 PM)
Unless he pitches so terribly that it becomes such a risk to give $15+ million for one year that he actually takes it...waiting for a rebound season so that he can re-establish his value for the big 4-6 year deal.

If they were ready to offer him the moon, I am sure they would take him back for one year.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2015 -> 08:15 PM)
And then we can congratulate ourselves on turning 4 upper-level minor leaguers into a $10 million bill, a poor season, and a sandwich pick with a good chance of never making the upper levels of the minors.

 

 

One of those players whose WAR is higher than the aforementioned Samardzija as a 2nd year player and has at least a 50/50 chance to be a cost-controlled contributor on the middle infield for 4 more seasons (the same exact position where we have the most depth but the least high quality depth in the minors).

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2015 -> 08:15 PM)
And then we can congratulate ourselves on turning 4 upper-level minor leaguers into a $10 million bill, a poor season, and a sandwich pick with a good chance of never making the upper levels of the minors.

With two of those minor leaguers currently putting up wRC+s of 118 and 105 in the majors whilst the guys we kept to play in their positions are at 23 and 47. What an absolutely disastrous trade.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2015 -> 08:17 PM)
This. Pen. Is. Nails.

 

 

It never fails. As soon as you get too excited about this team, something will smite the White Sox. Joe Morgan. Carlos Quentin's hamate. Shoeless Joe Jackson and 1919. Jared Mitchell's ankle. Pretty much every high draft pick not a pitcher for the last 20 years.

 

The amazing thing is we can't blame this season on poor health or injuries. It would be nice to have some sort of excuse to rationalize what's going on with this team/organization.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 2, 2015 -> 09:19 PM)
One of those players whose WAR is higher than the aforementioned Samardzija as a 2nd year player and has at least a 50/50 chance to be a cost-controlled contributor on the middle infield for 4 more seasons (the same exact position where we have the most depth but the least high quality depth in the minors).

I was actually pretty light on my preseason prediction of the trade in the Bold Predictions thread:

 

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 4, 2015 -> 04:58 PM)
Tyler Flowers hits under .200 before being replaced by Soto

Semien/Bassitt/Phegley/Ravelo produce around the same amount of WAR as Samardzija

Abreu has an OBP of over .400

Rodon replaces Danks in the rotation and beats his ERA by over 2

White Sox go under .500

 

 

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QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jun 2, 2015 -> 08:21 PM)
With two of those minor leaguers currently putting up wRC+s of 118 and 105 in the majors whilst the guys we kept to play in their positions are at 23 and 47. What an absolutely disastrous trade.

 

 

Obviously the A's aren't doing well this season. Trading Donaldson was all about Beane's ego and showing everyone who's really in charge.

 

But Zobrist will eventually be traded and 2-3 years from now the players they acquired will surely be major contributors.

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