macsandz Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:58 PM) it proves what most on this site been saying on hahn and kw. i wonder who orchestrated the actual players in the trade??? kw or hahn??? Been going on for months. KW / TOR is still a hot button topic don't think it's not. Big drama in the FO this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:00 AM) Being all in for 2016 would have no impact on Shark deal, he is going to free agency regardless. I does affect the talks but more within than with partners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:03 AM) Been going on for months. KW / TOR is still a hot button topic don't think it's not. Big drama in the FO this season. This is why we cant have nice things. We have a guy who wants to burn down the farm going for it no matter what the odds. If the odds are greater than 0 then he pushes the chips in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:55 PM) Deals for Shark to TOR and SF in place. The deals are sitting there. KW is still "all in" on '16 and Rick is not so there's that drama right now. I was just thinking KW and Hahn have to be butting heads right now a lot. Who's in charge here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:58 PM) Amy idea on the targets? Well they move him before the start tomorrow or wait til Friday you think Not sure they even know as of tonight. Doubt the deal parts are changing before Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:07 AM) I was just thinking KW and Hahn have to be butting heads right now a lot. Who's in charge here ? But some on here say KW not involved much, I say BS he never is not involved. Edited July 28, 2015 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:07 AM) I was just thinking KW and Hahn have to be butting heads right now a lot. Who's in charge here ? KW is in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:05 AM) I does affect the talks but more within than with partners. many thanks..... i am not trying to put words in your sentences to imply anything, ok. but by the bold, so it is the owners pushing for this then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I don't want to deal Quintana because I don't trust that Kenny would get the right return for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:57 PM) I think Shark to Toronto in a deal that Sox get Hoffman with 2 others. Toronto might have given up the prospects the Sox wanted in the Tulo trade. Don't know who the minor leaguers are yet . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:09 AM) KW is in charge. and i would assume b/c he is pres of the org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:55 PM) Deals for Shark to TOR and SF in place. The deals are sitting there. KW is still "all in" on '16 and Rick is not so there's that drama right now. The problem is that the Giants have too much respect for Hudson and Vogelsong to push them out of the rotation at this point. Although surely we have interest in Susac/Sanchez (catchers) for one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:09 AM) KW is in charge. Great..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:07 AM) Not sure they even know as of tonight. Doubt the deal parts are changing before Friday. Giants have very little in terms of hitting prospects. Tor will be desperate for a starter now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:09 AM) I don't want to deal Quintana because I don't trust that Kenny would get the right return for him. I have no faith in KW as a talent evaluator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:09 AM) KW is in charge. That's not surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:09 PM) KW is in charge. If that's the case , Hahn may resign out of frustration if he can't implement his own ideas on effecting changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:09 AM) Toronto might have given up the prospects the Sox wanted in the Tulo trade. Don't know who the minor leaguers are yet . True should be interesting who Colorado got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Morosi reporting Norris not in deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:12 AM) If that's the case , Hahn may resign out of frustration if he can't implement his own ideas on effecting changes. Every move Hahn wants to make he has to clear through KW it would get old fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Kenny really needs to f*** off.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:15 AM) Kenny really needs to f*** off.. unless he is doing the owners work this nite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:13 PM) Every move Hahn wants to make he has to clear through KW it would get old fast. Exactly. What's the point of being GM if you're not the one in charge. It's an empty title. Ever heard the phrase "too many cooks spoil the broth" ? Edited July 28, 2015 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:55 PM) Deals for Shark to TOR and SF in place. The deals are sitting there. KW is still "all in" on '16 and Rick is not so there's that drama right now. I wonder if this TOR deal for Tulo effects that now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:17 AM) I wonder if this TOR deal for Tulo effects that now They for sure will acquire a pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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