CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 6, 2015 -> 01:37 PM) Oh OK. Gotcha. Just my opinion but the Yankees and Dodgers make the most sense. The Yankees don't act like they belong in the World Series every year now that George Steinbrenner is gone and his son is in charge. With old George in charge heads would roll , trades would be made and they'd overpay because they are the Yankees and anything short of a World Series win is not acceptable. I've seen they are already balking that they won't make trades unless the asking prices come down. Now whether or not that includes talks with the Sox , no idea , but it's sure not the Yankees of old we're dealing with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 6, 2015 -> 03:51 PM) The Yankees don't act like they belong in the World Series every year now that George Steinbrenner is gone and his son is in charge. With old George in charge heads would roll , trades would be made and they'd overpay because they are the Yankees and anything short of a World Series win is not acceptable. I've seen they are already balking that they won't make trades unless the asking prices come down. Now whether or not that includes talks with the Sox , no idea , but it's sure not the Yankees of old we're dealing with. The way I understood it was the Yankees were referring to Hamels and Cueto according to this quote from mlbtraderumors. From that same piece, Marchand also notes that the Yankees aren’t likely to obtain an ace starter like Johnny Cueto or Cole Hamels “unless prices drop significantly.” Imo, the Yankees are very much interested though I have not seen anything directly related to Samardzija. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 6, 2015 -> 02:25 PM) The way I understood it was the Yankees were referring to Hamels and Cueto according to this quote from mlbtraderumors. From that same piece, Marchand also notes that the Yankees aren't likely to obtain an ace starter like Johnny Cueto or Cole Hamels "unless prices drop significantly." Imo, the Yankees are very much interested though I have not seen anything directly related to Samardzija. I'm sure the Yankees are interested but if they think they can dictate the price well you come right back at them with thsi team offered us so and so for him. You must top that. Especially if it's team in the Yankees division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 6, 2015 -> 09:45 PM) I'm sure the Yankees are interested but if they think they can dictate the price well you come right back at them with thsi team offered us so and so for him. You must top that. Especially if it's team in the Yankees division. Absolutely and that's exactly what will happen. The ALE has four teams seperated by 2.5 games so theres going to be plenty of bidding for Samardzija. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/video?vid=478574147976 Talks about the Sox at the 3 minute mark. It's about Samardzija and the Blue Jays. Morosi makes it seem like the Jays are desperate for SP and really want Shark. I really think they will overpay for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:54 AM) http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/video?vid=478574147976 Talks about the Sox at the 3 minute mark. It's about Samardzija and the Blue Jays. Morosi makes it seem like the Jays are desperate for SP and really want Shark. I really think they will overpay for him. last week, it was rumored that Tor needed a sp and a pen guy. now it is only sp?? looking at their T30, in the top 10, except for Pompey and their ss, that whole system has a nice collections of arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 6, 2015 -> 05:58 PM) Do you see gregs name at the top of that post with the stats? I didn't look up or print those stats in the post, but they were incredible. I congratulate you for such a great post!! Stat filled and excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Toronto will get a first hand look at shark when he pitches against them on thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:37 PM) Toronto will get a first hand look at shark when he pitches against them on thursday. tor has a really good of young arms. however i like the yanks, if they start off will G Sanchez-cat in the rtn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 09:48 AM) tor has a really good of young arms. however i like the yanks, if they start off will G Sanchez-cat in the rtn. I think Sanchez is a bit overrated. If the Yankees are calling, I'm starting out the conversation with Severino or Judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:50 PM) I think Sanchez is a bit overrated. If the Yankees are calling, I'm starting out the conversation with Severino or Judge. severino yes, judge no, i would still want sanchez, b/c the sox doesn't have a cat in the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 09:50 AM) I think Sanchez is a bit overrated. If the Yankees are calling, I'm starting out the conversation with Severino or Judge. Judge is the guy for me. I doubt you're getting Severino anyway, and why waste your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 10:03 AM) Judge is the guy for me. I doubt you're getting Severino anyway, and why waste your time. Exactly, but you start out with Severino and work your way from there. If Sanchez is the headliner of a Samardzija deal, I would be disappointed. If Samardzija pitches well against the Jays on Thursday, I really think they will overpay for him. Like Norris, Pentecost and Pompey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 09:57 AM) severino yes, judge no, i would still want sanchez, b/c the sox doesn't have a cat in the system. Sanchez is still a project defensively and the bat has not developed the way it was projected to, so he would be a good throw in at this point. If he is the headliner you need to be getting some high upside low level guys along with him. A package like Sanchez, Miguel Andujar, and Domingo Acevedo would be intriguing, though substituting Jagielo for Sanchez would make more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) Judge is the guy for me. I doubt you're getting Severino anyway, and why waste your time. but this system needs to fix the holes of the system. if the sox are trading, it is get players to fix the team as a rtn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 This is a really important start for Shark and the Sox. If he pitches well, Toronto will get desperate and trade a haul for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 10:05 AM) Exactly, but you start out with Severino and work your way from there. If Sanchez is the headliner of a Samardzija deal, I would be disappointed. If Samardzija pitches well against the Jays on Thursday, I really think they will overpay for him. Like Norris, Pentecost and Pompey I agree. I also think it's important to focus on higher-upside, closer-to-the-majors bats than pitchers, catchers and lower-minors projects. Judge would be perfect, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 10:03 AM) Judge is the guy for me. I doubt you're getting Severino anyway, and why waste your time. I'm with you on that idea. The Sox system is starved for power and catchers so for me, I'd ask for Judge and Sanchez while offering a reliever with Samardzija. I really like Severino but I doubt the Yankees are crazy enough to trade him for a rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 If the Yankees want Shark, Judge is the perfect return. Big power, good OBP, and an excellent fielder despite his monstrous size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/07/06/lev...be-first-to-go/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I would take Judge in a heartbeat. However, I think you can get more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 10:23 AM) If the Yankees want Shark, Judge is the perfect return. Big power, good OBP, and an excellent fielder despite his monstrous size. And could always be turned into a 1B if necessary. At 6'7" he would be a huge target for infielders throwing over to 1B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 10:08 AM) Sanchez is still a project defensively and the bat has not developed the way it was projected to, so he would be a good throw in at this point. If he is the headliner you need to be getting some high upside low level guys along with him. A package like Sanchez, Miguel Andujar, and Domingo Acevedo would be intriguing, though substituting Jagielo for Sanchez would make more sense. Acevedo is nasty, I've had the chance to watch him (because he plays for the team I work for), though it's admittedly tough to tell how stuff translates to higher levels when you're seeing them throw to Single A hitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Judge has helium. The Yankees love him. I'd trade Shark for him 1 for 1, but I highly doubt Judge is on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Sox supposedly liked Judge a lot a few years ago, as he was projected to them in a few mocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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