wsiskel Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Detailed post about White Sox first round pick, Vanderbilt RHP Carson Fulmer: http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2015/...und-draft-pick/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 QUOTE (wsiskel @ Jun 9, 2015 -> 12:10 AM) Detailed post about White Sox first round pick, Vanderbilt RHP Carson Fulmer: http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2015/...und-draft-pick/ Great information!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 great job and alot of info. i think, i may be wrong, but Fulmer is this yr triple crown pitcher. also he has a young arm, considering that he was used mostly as a reliever, so working as a sp and with the pitching coaches of the sox org, he will not only get stronger, but become a better pitcher. this was the BPA without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) "We're going to hear different things about an unconventional delivery, things of that nature, but you can't pass on guys that win and guys that are effective and guys that get people out," Laumann said. "He's got a dynamic pitch. His breaking ball is his strikeout pitch. He's 93-96 (mph), 98, carries it late into game. We're excited to get him." If possible, (assistant scouting director Nick) Hostetler was more excited than Laumann. "I made a comment earlier this week that he's a guy for me that you want in between the lines," Hostetler said. "He battles, competes. He's also a guy off the field, I have two daughters, and I hope a guy like that marries one of my daughters. "Just a terrific kid. For us he was the best college guy in the draft. We never want to really look at path. We want to look at development and what he's going to be at the end. But I think in the end, we are looking at it and we think he's going to help us here not only the quickest but also at the same time his ceiling is the highest for what we are trying to do." http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2015060...orts/150608908/ Scot Gregor Apparently Hostetler's been following/tracking him for at least two seasons... Edited June 9, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Nice stuff. Curious as to what Thaddius Lowry has that puts him in the same bracket as Montas, Danish and Adams though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jun 9, 2015 -> 11:06 AM) Nice stuff. Curious as to what Thaddius Lowry has that puts him in the same bracket as Montas, Danish and Adams though. i know..... i really need to see more of him. i am totally amazed on how he just went out there and silently put himself on the radar as a major viable sox prospect. where i was really disappoint in Lopez, i think that is his name, the one that was released from the sox last week, they find gems like Lowry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Whenever I hear a White Sox front office person comment on a prospect, I barf and take it with a grain of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Roy Oswalt. 6' 190. Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Great article. I think taking anyone but Fulmer at #8 would have been mistake for us and this article explains why. Dude has the stuff to be a top of the rotation starter and to be one very quickly. Would have hated to watch us pass on him, only to see the Cubs snag him at #9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 why am I reading that he was a reliever in college? did he do both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Rodon and Fulmer over Danks and Noesi... yes pls. Gammons was raving about Fulmer.. best College pitcher in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 QUOTE (Real @ Jun 9, 2015 -> 07:42 AM) why am I reading that he was a reliever in college? did he do both? Yep. Fulmer was switched to a starter during the 2014 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Here's the Kiley article in full: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-black-s...fting-pitchers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 When is he pitching next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I thought it was tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 9, 2015 -> 08:13 AM) When is he pitching next? Vanderbilt's first CWS game is this Sunday. He just threw 121 pitches on Saturday, but he should be ready to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Ok, looks like Sunday night. http://www.ncaa.com/championships/baseball/d1/schedule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 9, 2015 -> 01:33 PM) Great article. I think taking anyone but Fulmer at #8 would have been mistake for us and this article explains why. Dude has the stuff to be a top of the rotation starter and to be one very quickly. Would have hated to watch us pass on him, only to see the Cubs snag him at #9. with that, i totally agree. this was the best selection at this slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Gammons was right, the Sox have gotten the best college pitchers in consecutive drafts. At least IMO, Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 9, 2015 -> 08:27 AM) Gammons was right, the Sox have gotten the best college pitchers in consecutive drafts. At least IMO, Amazing. Sox have been extremely lucky, but also props to the fo for doing what others wouldnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 9, 2015 -> 01:29 PM) Sox have been extremely lucky, but also props to the fo for doing what others wouldnt. with re to last yr, i wouldn't say "wouldn't", i would say couldn't. this is b/c of Hahn's doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Eh, they got Sale under similar circumstances. There were both major signability concerns (ala Rodon) and mechanic concerns (ala Fulmer) with Sale and Sox got that done, rather easilly really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Oswalt's name is going to be thrown out there a lot. Billy Wagner, from the LH side, comes to mind. Lincecum. Octavio Dotel. Juan Cruz. Tom Gordon. Pedro Martinez. Since there is no difference in this statistic for right-handed starting pitchers, the reason shorter pitchers throw fewer innings may be that they’re less durable or it may be that managers and baseball executives believe that shorter pitchers are less durable. Even if starting left-handed pitchers who are shorter are in fact less durable, the difference, while statistically significant, is still not that great. The data speak for themselves. Baseball organizations have been scouting, signing, and developing players based on a fallacious assumption. Shorter pitchers are just as effective and durable as taller pitchers. If a player has the ability to get drafted, then he should be drafted in the round that fits his talent. The opportunity for major-league clubs is currently at its greatest potential. Clubs that value short pitchers with talent have an opportunity similar to those of clubs that, a decade or more ago, valued on-base percentage at a time when many of their competitors did not. http://sabr.org/research/does-pitcher-s-height-matter Interesting article from 2010 about whether or not a starting pitcher's height matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 9, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) Eh, they got Sale under similar circumstances. There were both major signability concerns (ala Rodon) and mechanic concerns (ala Fulmer) with Sale and Sox got that done, rather easilly really. all that matters is results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I still like Allard over Fulmer from a talent and upside view, but Fullmer is by no means a bad pick. He's going to need to simplify his delivery a lot to be a starter at the next level imo, but dominant bull pen arms are by no means something to be viewed lightly. Robertson, Fulmer, and Duke could make games real short in the near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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