2015 MLB Draft Thread - Discussion - DAY TWO

[LDF]

With the Sox picking Fulmer and the collection of arms the Sox have, I really hope they get after some hitters. At some point, this organization will have to develop some hitting.

 

i totally agree, at this point, some prep arms maybe the the better route. but this systems needs positional players, no matter what.

[LDF]

If you have pitching, you can trade for hitting. Ask Avi Garcia and Adam Eaton.

 

now, i can envision other teams asking for an overpayment.

 

the sox has a nice set of sp's in depth and supply. but still, it is good to develop your own positional depth..... look at the freaking norhtside and their pos players.

[southsider2k5]

now, i can envision other teams asking for an overpayment.

 

the sox has a nice set of sp's in depth and supply. but still, it is good to develop your own positional depth..... look at the freaking norhtside and their pos players.

 

And they had to spend $155 million for one SP.

[LDF]

And they had to spend $155 million for one SP.

 

but if that was the only payment they needed to make, that is not a bad payment. in the playoff, every team needs a #1 starter.

[southsider2k5]

but if that was the only payment they needed to make, that is not a bad payment. in the playoff, every team needs a #1 starter.

 

Ours is going to cost us only $46 million over the next four years. That won't even get you two years of Lester.

[southsider2k5]

The best way would be to save money with Fulmer, thought that is probably not very realistic.

 

For example, if you can get Fulmer to take $3 million, you can make about a million dollar offer to the 4th round pick, even if you save no money is rounds 5-10.

[LDF]

Ours is going to cost us only $46 million over the next four years. That won't even get you two years of Lester.

 

the sox were extremely lucky in drafting the #1 pitcher in Sale and signed him to an extension. now add the fact that the sox has the potential to a full set of sp's, and at this point, it maybe too early, but i don't really see a weak link.

 

but the sox needs hitters to really set up the team with the other half of what a team needs, again hitters.

 

so do the sox sacrifice pitchers to fill in other area of needs, who is to say, the sox will be able to get their #1 wish list.

[Dunt]

the sox were extremely lucky in drafting the #1 pitcher in Sale and signed him to an extension. now add the fact that the sox has the potential to a full set of sp's, and at this point, it maybe too early, but i don't really see a weak link.

 

but the sox needs hitters to really set up the team with the other half of what a team needs, again hitters.

 

so do the sox sacrifice pitchers to fill in other area of needs, who is to say, the sox will be able to get their #1 wish list.

 

Sox need just better all-around baseball players. Guys that can hit .270 and get on base at a .330-.340 clip, but play good defense and run the bases intelligently.

[LDF]

For example, if you can get Fulmer to take $3 million, you can make about a million dollar offer to the 4th round pick, even if you save no money is rounds 5-10.

with the allotted slot money, at this point, i have no freaking idea what to think. i am so totally lost in what to do. i guess the vacant spots in the second round and third round, threw me for a loop.

[Y2Jimmy0]

Ours is going to cost us only $46 million over the next four years. That won't even get you two years of Lester.

 

 

Lester has identical numbers to our supposed #3 starter though over the past 3 seasons.

[LDF]

Sox need just better all-around baseball players. Guys that can hit .270 and get on base at a .330-.340 clip, but play good defense and run the bases intelligently.

 

let me also add, you have a great point, but before, ahhh before the Hahn era, the sox has no depth at the hitter pos in the system. i believe with Hahn that will change. but at this time, the sox are really at a crossroad, the sox has to find a way to address the holes the system has.

[southsider2k5]

the sox were extremely lucky in drafting the #1 pitcher in Sale and signed him to an extension. now add the fact that the sox has the potential to a full set of sp's, and at this point, it maybe too early, but i don't really see a weak link.

 

but the sox needs hitters to really set up the team with the other half of what a team needs, again hitters.

 

so do the sox sacrifice pitchers to fill in other area of needs, who is to say, the sox will be able to get their #1 wish list.

 

No they weren't.

[LDF]

No they weren't.

 

 

no??? can you pls explain.

[southsider2k5]

no??? can you pls explain.

 

They weren't lucky at all. They scouted and developed a guy that many were afraid was either destined to be a reliever, or would have major arm surgery by now into one of the best pitchers in all of baseball.

 

That isn't luck.

[LDF]

They weren't lucky at all. They scouted and developed a guy that many were afraid was either destined to be a reliever, or would have major arm surgery by now into one of the best pitchers in all of baseball.

 

That isn't luck.

 

oh pls.... in this area, they were lucky for many reasons. all the reasons came and worked. they were able to sign him and he fully developed as hope...... this is all luck.

 

pls look as it was a subjective point of view.

[Dunt]

let me also add, you have a great point, but before, ahhh before the Hahn era, the sox has no depth at the hitter pos in the system. i believe with Hahn that will change. but at this time, the sox are really at a crossroad, the sox has to find a way to address the holes the system has.

 

I think Hahn has the organization in a pretty good place personally. He has a good young nucleus at the major league level in Sale, Rodon, Abreu, Q, Avi, and Eaton with some actual legit depth coming in the minors. You could have potentially two first round picks in next years draft and have relatively large salaries coming off the books in Samardzija, Danks, Alexei, and LaRoche in the next two seasons. There will be good offensive options in free agency, Sox just need to spend their money wisely. They definitely need to address C and 3B ASAP though in my opinion. I had pretty high expectations for this team this season and they have fallen well short, but that was largely me being unrealistic about the state of the franchise. I think the arrow is pointed up, I just hope they can make it count while Sale, Q, Abreu, etc. are cheap.

[southsider2k5]

oh pls.... in this area, they were lucky for many reasons. all the reasons came and worked. they were able to sign him and he fully developed as hope...... this is all luck.

 

pls look as it was a subjective point of view.

 

If this is luck, then you have to classify the lack of bats coming out of our system as "bad luck". I am not willing to do that either.

[caulfield12]

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/129489926/po...-day-1-intrigue

 

3 best picks, 3 surprises

 

Wouldn't be possible to go through the day without a Melky Cabrera mention, haha. Jon Harris was the one drafted in the spot that was created by the Blue Jays losing him to the White Sox.

[LDF]

I think Hahn has the organization in a pretty good place personally. He has a good young nucleus at the major league level in Sale, Rodon, Abreu, Q, Avi, and Eaton with some actual legit depth coming in the minors. You could have potentially two first round picks in next years draft and have relatively large salaries coming off the books in Samardzija, Danks, Alexei, and LaRoche in the next two seasons. There will be good offensive options in free agency, Sox just need to spend their money wisely. They definitely need to address C and 3B ASAP though in my opinion. I had pretty high expectations for this team this season and they have fallen well short, but that was largely me being unrealistic about the state of the franchise. I think the arrow is pointed up, I just hope they can make it count while Sale, Q, Abreu, etc. are cheap.

 

excellent and a voice of reason.

 

i am at a dilemma at this point. i was a huge proponent of this season and this team. while i ranked on several points, i just don't know. those holes you mention, needs to be address, so should we trade off, let say, Shark, to look for those prospects. how else would they be address?

 

re bold, is it of your opinion that the sox address it via FA's?

[LDF]

If this is luck, then you have to classify the lack of bats coming out of our system as "bad luck". I am not willing to do that either.

 

yeah it was bad luck..... it was the sox's bad luck for not having a good GM at the helm.

[Dunt]

excellent and a voice of reason.

 

i am at a dilemma at this point. i was a huge proponent of this season and this team. while i ranked on several points, i just don't know. those holes you mention, needs to be address, so should we trade off, let say, Shark, to look for those prospects. how else would they be address?

 

re bold, is it of your opinion that the sox address it via FA's?

 

I dont think it's out of reason to believe that the Sox may pursue Matt Wieters this offseason. Unless they can trade for a catcher, they have absolutely nothing in the system that can replace Tyler Flowers which is pretty scary.

[LDF]

If this is luck, then you have to classify the lack of bats coming out of our system as "bad luck". I am not willing to do that either.

 

if this isn't luck, what would you describe it. Skills in drafting.

[southsider2k5]

yeah it was bad luck..... it was the sox's bad luck for not having a good GM at the helm.

 

That isn't a consistent line of thought at all.

[LDF]

I dont think it's out of reason to believe that the Sox may pursue Matt Wieters this offseason. Unless they can trade for a catcher, they have absolutely nothing in the system that can replace Tyler Flowers which is pretty scary.

 

nice. for what i am about to write, do not take it personally.

 

but here is the wild card, at what salary and the overall salary expense that sox have allotted.

[southsider2k5]

if this isn't luck, what would you describe it. Skills in drafting.

 

The Sox can draft and develop pitchers pretty well. I call that a skill. They suck at hitters. I call that a failure.