flavum Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 Maybe Beckham has trade value solely for his defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) We might as well try Leury, Saladino, Davidson, Micah and Sanchez in different combinations from 3B to 2B until we've eliminated nearly all of them from being legitimate 2016 options. Hopefully Micah Johnson (eventually) emerges as a legit candidate for 2B, though....that's one less position we'd need to trade for or overpay on the free agent market. Conor's fine as a bench option, but not an everyday player because of his defensive and LHP/split limitations. Rodon ERA up to 3.59 but it could be much worse the way that game started...at least he's settled down now. He should learn something valuable from this, rather than being pulled in the first inning and succumbing to frustration. Edited June 15, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 11:52 PM) We might as well try Leury, Saladino, Davidson, Micah and Sanchez in different combinations from 3B to 2B until we've eliminated nearly all of them from being legitimate 2016 options. or just give Johnson and Davidson as many at bats as possible if the Sox sell off the veterans. Guys like Saladino and Garcia are highly unlikely to play big roles next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 05:54 PM) or just give Johnson and Davidson as many at bats as possible if the Sox sell off the veterans. Guys like Saladino and Garcia are highly unlikely to play big roles next year. Yeah, I agree...unless they're deliberately tanking for draft pick position. The biggest question is what they will end up doing with Alexei Ramirez. Somehow, you have a feeling they end up making no decision while desperately hoping for him to return to form for one final hurrah in 2016. Edited June 16, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) At least Gordon hasn't given up. That's two great plays defensively. The only sign of life, that and Rodon not completely imploding and fighting his way through the 1st. More signs of the decline of Alexei Ramirez...just doesn't have the same range he did a couple of seasons ago. Edited June 16, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 these are pros nobody is going to "give up". That said, bringing back Gordon was exactly like bringing in Vizquel, or hell, Hinrich on the Bulls. Just one of those moves JR makes you just scratch your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Alexei is dunzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 06:43 PM) http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/.../gordon-beckham Hope Robin Ventura notices that Gordon Beckham is only 6 for 36 against LHP this season and has been in a terrible slump. Make that 6 for 37. Conor has only batted against lefties five times this year, 2 for 5. But if they are basically the same offensively, I'd rather play Beckham for his defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Ramirez just appealed to first base and got himself called out. LOL. Quintessential White Sox this season. Wasn't called a strike originally, his own appeal got him called out. Points for honesty. Struck out the side. Breaking news, nothing doing for the White Sox offensively through 4. Edited June 16, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 This team just can't hit to save their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor13 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 SERIOUS QUESTION FOR EVERYONE At what point do you start rooting for the no hitter? I know that I personally will start rooting for it after the 6th inning (for many reasons). Which I guess is basically after the 5th inning cause our 7, 8, 9 hitter aren't gonna het a hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 04:50 PM) I know this is surprising from me, but I don't even blame Ventura for this mess. The players just flat out suck this season on this team. Never seen a group of veterans just all underachieve like this in the same year. with the exception of Abreu and Avi, there is no offense. Cabrera and Eaton have proven to be huge disappointments. Lexi's regression is beyond frustrating but seriously, he can't be relied upon to carry an offense. LaRoche has shown signs of coming around but I'm no longer waiting for a miraculous turnaround. I wish MLB allowed teams to trade draft picks because we could use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Updated as of tonight. 27. White Sox, -59 28. Red Sox, -63 29. Brewers, -65 30. Phillies, -91 At least our attendance is perfectly lined up with our performance in terms of runs scored/runs allowed. Almost exactly a margin of one run per game. Not easy to do in modern day baseball with all the parity. Edited June 16, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Why did they pull Rodon so early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 07:24 PM) Why did they pull Rodon so early? He has nothing tonight. No reason to leave him out there to get battered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 07:24 PM) Why did they pull Rodon so early? Why did they keep him in that long? Edited June 16, 2015 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 07:18 PM) SERIOUS QUESTION FOR EVERYONE At what point do you start rooting for the no hitter? I know that I personally will start rooting for it after the 6th inning (for many reasons). Which I guess is basically after the 5th inning cause our 7, 8, 9 hitter aren't gonna het a hit. I agree, sixth inning when you realize a loss is inevitable it becomes an issue of entertainment and why not have the same pitcher no-hit us again? I feel it also brings all issues concerning our offense to the forefront again, which isn't exactly new but just a reinforcement of this team's mediocrity. Nothing will change as a result, but its fun-bad and atleast worth a chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 06:26 PM) I agree, sixth inning when you realize a loss is inevitable it becomes an issue of entertainment and why not have the same pitcher no-hit us again? I feel it also brings all issues concerning our offense to the forefront again, which isn't exactly new but just a reinforcement of this team's mediocrity. Nothing will change as a result, but its fun-bad and atleast worth a chuckle. Nolan Ryan might have it...but wonder who has the record for most no-hitters against the same team pitching for different teams? More defensive ineptitude. No reason to let that runner get into scoring position. Just bad defense and lack of execution. Abreu just dropped the ball. Had him (Marte) dead to rights. Harrelson still upset or has he gone into his quiet steaming phase already? Rodon tagged for seven earned runs. ERA now for the season almost up to 4 (3.86). And the perfect example of a RH Melky Cabrera hit....only his sixth of the season, up to .094. Seeing eye single. Edited June 16, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Also figure for all this talk of unloading veterans, it's useless unless we're dealing from a position of strength or dumping salary. We should trade Quintana, but I'm not confident with what they'll receive (judging by past trades) and not entirely sure how the trade market is looking for SP. I'd say having another Top 5 draft pick is worth more to us than anything we'd receive via trade. We've rarely been a team to sell high and reap the bebefits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 This team is in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Dear god Noesi works slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 This is just an ass kicking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 07:18 PM) SERIOUS QUESTION FOR EVERYONE At what point do you start rooting for the no hitter? I know that ?? How about NEVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I was checking from time to time on Gameday. Very frustrating to see another Sox starter not prepared for the first inning of the game. Couple that with a non-existent offense and I can certainly see where some folks are ready to jump ship. At what point are these players going to jell? You win three in a row only to lose three in a row and look to be headed to #4 in a row. You can't expect to build confidence in your team let alone make up ground playing like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 07:36 PM) Also figure for all this talk of unloading veterans, it's useless unless we're dealing from a position of strength or dumping salary. We should trade Quintana, but I'm not confident with what they'll receive (judging by past trades) and not entirely sure how the trade market is looking for SP. I'd say having another Top 5 draft pick is worth more to us than anything we'd receive via trade. We've rarely been a team to sell high and reap the bebefits for how many years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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