thedoctor Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 this was spurred by a discussion B and B had yesterday about plans for the bulls and sox when reinsdorf dies. they said (and this could totally be b.s., considering the sources) that there is a succession plan in place for the bulls, but the white sox will go up for sale almost immediately. to that end, what type of owner or ownership group could we expect to see, given all that we know about the state of the organization. would the sox an attractive option (major market, great opportunities) or terribly unattractive (bad television rating and attendance)? and what would you want to see in a new ownership group? as a caveat, i'll acknowledge that reinsdorf could own the team for another decade, and the climate could be very different then. for the purposes of this discussion i'd say assume the situation is fairly similar to what it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 QUOTE (thedoctor @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) this was spurred by a discussion B and B had yesterday about plans for the bulls and sox when reinsdorf dies. they said (and this could totally be b.s., considering the sources) that there is a succession plan in place for the bulls, but the white sox will go up for sale almost immediately. to that end, what type of owner or ownership group could we expect to see, given all that we know about the state of the organization. would the sox an attractive option (major market, great opportunities) or terribly unattractive (bad television rating and attendance)? and what would you want to see in a new ownership group? as a caveat, i'll acknowledge that reinsdorf could own the team for another decade, and the climate could be very different then. for the purposes of this discussion i'd say assume the situation is fairly similar to what it is now. Several years ago, I knew a guy who knew Reinsdorf's son quite well. I posted on this site many years ago there were blueprints to build 3 structures in the parking lots, I was told they were bars but 2 of them were bars, one the Sports Depot. This was years before they were built. They didn't build the one on the other side of the park....yet. JR's son now runs the Bulls, and despite what you heard over the years, at least as of a few years ago, he also hoped to be in his dad's role with the White Sox. If you read the Tribune article years ago, JR's heirs will retain his power with the ballclub upon his death. (Which I hope is a long ways off) . I would expect his son to take over. It will probably be a different style. Probably a little less conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian26 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Several years ago, I knew a guy who knew Reinsdorf's son quite well. I posted on this site many years ago there were blueprints to build 3 structures in the parking lots, I was told they were bars but 2 of them were bars, one the Sports Depot. This was years before they were built. They didn't build the one on the other side of the park....yet. JR's son now runs the Bulls, and despite what you heard over the years, at least as of a few years ago, he also hoped to be in his dad's role with the White Sox. If you read the Tribune article years ago, JR's heirs will retain his power with the ballclub upon his death. (Which I hope is a long ways off) . I would expect his son to take over. It will probably be a different style. Probably a little less conservative. I'm pretty sure Jerry will outlive Boers, so let's talk about the B and B succession plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 i am with you on not wanting death on anyone.... except for my enemies, and i can live with that. but at the cost of the reported value of the soxs????? who could really afford that and want to keep the team in chi or at there present location?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 12:51 PM) i am with you on not wanting death on anyone.... except for my enemies, and i can live with that. but at the cost of the reported value of the soxs????? who could really afford that and want to keep the team in chi or at there present location?? Mlb would never let the sox move out of chicago. It's not something to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 12:51 PM) i am with you on not wanting death on anyone.... except for my enemies, and i can live with that. but at the cost of the reported value of the soxs????? who could really afford that and want to keep the team in chi or at there present location?? People don't buy sports teams to make money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 07:18 PM) People don't buy sports teams to make money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 01:04 PM) Mlb would never let the sox move out of chicago. It's not something to worry about. And I am not sure where they would move that is more profitable anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 06:32 PM) And I am not sure where they would move that is more profitable anyway. who knows about the bottom line profit, but the shear cost of the team and what the value is expected to be???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 For a second, just looking at the title of this thread, I thought maybe good, 'ol Uncle Jer may have sold the team and I hadn't yet heard about it. Sigh.....one can dare to dream, can't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) encourage Donald Trump to buy the team or maybe Mark Cuban wll be interested Edited June 17, 2015 by elrockinMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 07:35 PM) encourage Donald Trump to buy the team or maybe Mark Cuban wll be interested why not the writz family??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I've been led to believe that one of the present investors will take over the team from JR. There are supposedly 3 investors who want to take over the team if JR ever decides to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 02:35 PM) encourage Donald Trump to buy the team or maybe Mark Cuban wll be interested Neither would be approved by MLB ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 02:53 PM) why not the writz family??? Do they have a spare billion dollars laying around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 My dream owner is Cuban. MLB won't let it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 04:14 PM) My dream owner is Cuban. MLB won't let it happen. How many of the star power owners would move the team in a second to seal a larger profit margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 06:04 PM) Mlb would never let the sox move out of chicago. It's not something to worry about. Why would MLB care? Vegas is still an option. What about Memphis or New Orleans. Or somewhere in Canada? Or even Mexico? QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 09:18 PM) How many of the star power owners would move the team in a second to seal a larger profit margin. That's what I was thinking. I think the Sox very easily could move when Jerry dies. It would be sad, though, to only have the Cubs. But if the Sox continue to suck as long as it appears they are going to suck, this team will have trouble drawing 15,000 a game. If this is another 99 loss season, it's really going to be dismal next year. One more 99 loss season after this one might spell crowds like the early 70s again. 2-3,000 a night. It gets that bad and you can bet they'll move when Jerry dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 02:14 PM) My dream owner is Cuban. MLB won't let it happen. Why? He won one championship, right? And became a media whore who drew more attention to himself than the team. I've never understood his appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 04:18 PM) How many of the star power owners would move the team in a second to seal a larger profit margin. The Sox have a lease and other contracts. If there were cities that screamed huge profits, and the White Sox happen to be one of the more profitable teams in baseball according to Forbes, they would have a team by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 03:17 AM) Why would MLB care? Vegas is still an option. What about Memphis or New Orleans. Or somewhere in Canada? Or even Mexico? That's what I was thinking. I think the Sox very easily could move when Jerry dies. It would be sad, though, to only have the Cubs. But if the Sox continue to suck as long as it appears they are going to suck, this team will have trouble drawing 15,000 a game. If this is another 99 loss season, it's really going to be dismal next year. One more 99 loss season after this one might spell crowds like the early 70s again. 2-3,000 a night. It gets that bad and you can bet they'll move when Jerry dies. and it could happen, then the owners will again jump on the fans for not supporting the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 17, 2015 -> 04:18 PM) How many of the star power owners would move the team in a second to seal a larger profit margin. All of them. Which tells me that there aren't any real palatable markets out there, or teams like Oakland and Tampa would be looking to move there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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