Balta1701 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 26, 2015 -> 03:25 PM) Except where the government applies it for us... Please tell me where in this case that has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 26, 2015 -> 01:44 PM) I think there's a fine line here. A statue in a public building is interpreted by the general public as honoring the person, not as a figure in history who may have done really good or really bad things. Clearly these people need to remain a part of our public conscience within the context of the study of history, but putting a statue of them up in a public place goes beyond that. I do find it very ironic that Washington and Jefferson get free passes though. Somehow owning slaves in 1790 isn't as bad as owning slaves in 1860. A few years back I went to Charlottesville for a week for training, and one of the co-workers who went with me is black. He was not in a very good mood after the trip to and tour of Monticello, and I don't blame him. Yeah, that stuff belongs in museums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Or, if you're offended that someone cheated on their wife, the only presidential statue to be erected in the future will be of Jimmy Carter, by all accounts, our worst but smartest and most moral president and the one who has done the most since leaving office. But...back to the y2hh point, it would be a true shame if a kid can't play a Stratego or Risk-like Civil War based strategy game because there happens to be a Confederate battle flag as part of the game. That's sanitizing the past to the point where it soon becomes unrecognizable. Edited June 27, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Which again nobody is actually calling for. Because that would be stupid. Stopping honoring something isn't the same thing as expunging it from history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 https://www.yahoo.com/politics/the-reverend...2531605241.html Pres. Obama's eulogy...maybe his best public comments since he ran for office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 http://www.live5news.com/story/29422267/wo...f-sc-statehouse An African American woman climbed the flag pole and took it down this morning. It has since been put back and she was arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 5 African American churches in the South have been set ablaze in apparent arsons in the last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-chairm...23--nascar.html Nascar wants to do away with Confederate flag now.... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/opinion/...;pgtype=article Edited June 28, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 05:31 PM) 5 African American churches in the South have been set ablaze in apparent arsons in the last week. It's like the 60s again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 08:51 AM) http://www.live5news.com/story/29422267/wo...f-sc-statehouse An African American woman climbed the flag pole and took it down this morning. It has since been put back and she was arrested. https://vine.co/v/eJhYu20i7mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 10:31 PM) 5 African American churches in the South have been set ablaze in apparent arsons in the last week. What evil person would burn down a church? What a world. ... Maybe the racist nuts of the world will burn down hospitals if it's deemed they employ too many African American doctors n nurses. Edited June 30, 2015 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 White supremacist terrorist attacks have targeted black churches as long as there have been black churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 http://www.live5news.com/story/29422267/wo...f-sc-statehouse An African American woman climbed the flag pole and took it down this morning. It has since been put back and she was arrested. If the governor can't get the legislature to vote to take down the flag, then all she really needs to do is publicly state that she'll pardon anybody who does this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 02:13 AM) White supremacist terrorist attacks have targeted black churches as long as there have been black churches. At least with the five recent ones, doesn't appear any were hate crimes/due to race: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/30/us/no-ev...rches.html?_r=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 09:08 AM) At least with the five recent ones, doesn't appear any were hate crimes/due to race: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/30/us/no-ev...rches.html?_r=0 LMAO. yea, all vandalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 09:16 AM) LMAO. yea, all vandalism. it did say one was electrical and the resat were being investigated, so perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 7 black churches go down because of electrical issues. What a coincidence. Must've used same contractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 11:49 AM) 7 black churches go down because of electrical issues. What a coincidence. Must've used same contractor. Nice way to not read. I said one. And one of the seven is supposedly not a black church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 11:41 AM) Nice way to not read. I said one. And one of the seven is supposedly not a black church. What exactly comprises a black church? 90%? 50% or more? 2/3? 60%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 12:41 PM) Nice way to not read. I said one. And one of the seven is supposedly not a black church. So it's ok that only 5 burned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 12:55 PM) So it's ok that only 5 burned? Yet one more wonderful interpretation of yours. Did I say or even imply that? No. You just assumed that since I didn't bow to your wisdom that I was saying that. it is not ok that any of them were burned down, even the electrical one. But until you have proof of the motivation behind them, if it wasn't an accident, why not try and withhold your bomb throwing for just a bit, until there are some fact that can be confirmed thru something other than knee jerk reactions and guesswork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 12:49 PM) What exactly comprises a black church? 90%? 50% or more? 2/3? 60%? I am not the one defining them as black or not. Go ask AP or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Eight churches in ten days now. All just unrelated vandalism probably. http://time.com/3942688/black-church-burni...south-carolina/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/opinions/rhe...;iref=obnetwork Debate over what to do about US military bases named after Confederate generals (Bragg, Hood, Benning, etc.), Stone Mountain, the statues in Richmond, VA (Monument Avenue)...should they be relocated to museums? Private property vs. public parks, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/02/politics/con...ride/index.html Opinions on the Confederate flag....southern pride vs. racist symbol havent changed/evolved much over the years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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