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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 08:57 PM)
Marin hasn't allowed a run in his last 22 innings and counting.

 

 

 

 

Seems like a kid who has pretty decent minor league stats but fairly limited MLB potential.

 

Are we missing something (new pitch, change in delivery, healthy) with this recent stretch?

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 25, 2015 -> 12:24 AM)
Seems like a kid who has pretty decent minor league stats but fairly limited MLB potential.

 

Are we missing something (new pitch, change in delivery, healthy) with this recent stretch?

You are missing a lot. And you'll be hearing more about it soon on FS.

 

For now... when he was released from W-S a little over a year ago, he went to Indy ball, changed some pitch grips and added a cutter. Came back and had better stuff. Then the Sox tweaked his delivery too, and in the Mexican winter league all of a sudden his FB was hitting mid-90s, touching 96 as a high. The Sox wanted him to get reps but didn't have room in AAA so they loaned him to a Mexican League team for a while this year, now he's back.

 

Current stuff includes a usually-low-90s sinking fastball, effective cutter, a couple breaking pitches I don't know a ton about, and overall strong command. I'd put him in the T30 now.

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 25, 2015 -> 12:29 PM)
You are missing a lot. And you'll be hearing more about it soon on FS.

 

For now... when he was released from W-S a little over a year ago, he went to Indy ball, changed some pitch grips and added a cutter. Came back and had better stuff. Then the Sox tweaked his delivery too, and in the Mexican winter league all of a sudden his FB was hitting mid-90s, touching 96 as a high. The Sox wanted him to get reps but didn't have room in AAA so they loaned him to a Mexican League team for a while this year, now he's back.

 

Current stuff includes a usually-low-90s sinking fastball, effective cutter, a couple breaking pitches I don't know a ton about, and overall strong command. I'd put him in the T30 now.

 

yah, he came, at least for me, at of no where to become a viable option. i really like to see him build some success this season and see what is left to do to make the big league.

 

another arm.... great

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QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jun 25, 2015 -> 09:58 AM)
I'd be very wary about Marin. Dude has struck out just 11% of the batters he's faced at AAA. He'll have to improve mightily on that to be anything approaching a prospect in my book.

Just as going scoreless in 22 innings is a very small sample, so is the K rate. And unlike say Beck, look at his pro career prior - he is usually more 6, 7, 8 K/9.

 

And more important is stuff. What's interesting about Marin is, his stuff wasn't anything worth writing home about in his early years. But he's re-tooled significantly. Added a cutter that a scout I talked with called "major league", his FB velo went from 88-91 to low 90s touching mid-90s, and his core FB shows more sink now. Which leads to another key point - he was not particularly FB or GB heavy before, but he's getting a lot more ground balls now. Which is important to look at vs K rates.

 

He's certainly not a high end prospect, but I'd call him a prospect. I think in a relief role, with the strong command he has on that FB and CT and their quality level, with the ability to throw a change or breaker for a strike, he could do well there.

 

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