LDF Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 09:42 PM) Of course, it was an overpayment, but they just came off of a Stanley Cup. Immediately, that puts your players, if you want to keep them, at a higher premium. There was no reason to believe that Bickell wouldn't improve the next season. In fact, most thought the playoffs were a jumping off point. AND, if I remember correctly, he even took a lower contract with the Hawks because he wanted to stay. I believe there were bigger contracts out there. So, who is a better GM? I can't answer that. There's really no such thing as the BEST GM. Even a blind squirrel sometimes gets a nut. But overall, Stan took a cap-strapped team from Tallon, re-made it TWICE, and won Stanley Cups. I'll even say the 2010 SC should be more on Tallon because they were mostly his players. I will agree, Stan is top 10. I would even say top 5. But he, just like every single person that has had the title GM, makes mistakes. nice post. ref the bold, i am not smart enuf to say who is top 10 gm in this hockey world now. but i will always give credit where credit is due. bowman has done a great job in getting the personnel for Q to use and to get ready for the SC chase and he did it again. interest question. how does a gm in hockey is or will be rated??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 04:42 PM) Of course, it was an overpayment, but they just came off of a Stanley Cup. Immediately, that puts your players, if you want to keep them, at a higher premium. There was no reason to believe that Bickell wouldn't improve the next season. In fact, most thought the playoffs were a jumping off point. AND, if I remember correctly, he even took a lower contract with the Hawks because he wanted to stay. I believe there were bigger contracts out there. So, who is a better GM? I can't answer that. There's really no such thing as the BEST GM. Even a blind squirrel sometimes gets a nut. But overall, Stan took a cap-strapped team from Tallon, re-made it TWICE, and won Stanley Cups. I'll even say the 2010 SC should be more on Tallon because they were mostly his players. I will agree, Stan is top 10. I would even say top 5. But he, just like every single person that has had the title GM, makes mistakes. That may have been Bickell's market value, but that doesn't mean the Blackhawks had to pay it. As I recall, that was a lot of the sentiment at the time. Anyway, no one is gonna be perfect. Bowman is a very good GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Tracey Myers @TramyersCSN 2h2 hours ago #Blackhawks lines: 86-19-81, 72-15-88, 29-65-39, 11-16-28. So same as the last few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 02:33 AM) Obviously Bickell deserves the blame for not preforming and living up to the deal, but Stan also deserves a fair share of the blame. You are correct in terms of the sentiment, I remember after his playoff run there was just the belief "You can't let this guy walk, he makes to big of an impact when he is on to let this guy walk away." His big body, that huge power forward role was something that was missing from the Hawks, and when Bickell was playing at a high level he was incredibly valuable. BUT, what makes a GM smarter than all of us is being able to evaluate talent and project future performances. Sometimes you hit, and sometimes you miss, and Bowman and the staff missed big time. Everyone deserves blame. The goal of the GM is also to have more hits than misses, and clearly we know where Stan & Co. stand. and i have 2 lousy idea on this... i admit it. it is just me. i say don't rest on your laurels .... get to work and what have you done for me lately. i am a harsh task manager, Edited October 7, 2015 by LDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) Tracey Myers @TramyersCSN 2h2 hours ago #Blackhawks lines: 86-19-81, 72-15-88, 29-65-39, 11-16-28. So same as the last few days. i am going to like to see how they performed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 12:43 PM) and i have 2 lousy idea on this... i admit it. it is just me. i say don't rest on your laurels .... get to work and what have you done for me lately. i am a harsh task manager, Lately, as in reigning Stanley Cup champs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) Lately, as in reigning Stanley Cup champs? that was so 3 months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 01:52 PM) that was so 3 months ago Well if you are going to be a harsh task manager, you should probably start with your own posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) Tracey Myers @TramyersCSN 2h2 hours ago #Blackhawks lines: 86-19-81, 72-15-88, 29-65-39, 11-16-28. So same as the last few days. i really like to see how line 2 and line 3 do in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) i really like to see how line 2 and line 3 do in this game. I'd really like to see how lines 1, 2, 3 and 4 do in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) I'm convinced defense will be a problem. Trevor Daley is not a defenseman. Edited October 8, 2015 by AustinIllini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Panarin with a goal from Kane! This will be a fun line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Wow Hawks looking awful Daley sucks. Edited October 8, 2015 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 08:06 PM) Wow Hawks looking awful Daley sucks. Agreed. I knew it the second it happened. Daley is terrible and Garbutt is bad. They're a -2 and a -1 in this game, respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The young guys came hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Yup, Teuvo Time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 It's game 1, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 08:57 PM) It's game 1, guys. No kidding. Though I wrote off Richards last year in November so heyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The second line is extremely creative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Keith has been sloppy this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 f***ing Ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) That should be a goal way too quick a whistle. Edited October 8, 2015 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 How's is that inconclusive? Puck was in net and then you blew the whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 09:58 PM) How's is that inconclusive? Puck was in net and then you blew the whistle. No point in having replay if they cant figure this s*** out. He was waving his arms and blowing his whistle as the puck was in the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Oct 7, 2015 -> 10:04 PM) No point in having replay if they cant figure this s*** out. Sound familiar? Anyway, Hawks got robbed of a point in the standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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