southsider2k5 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 15, 2016 -> 09:14 PM) Might have saved a goal there after Corey got nailed in the head. Yep. Didn't even let Tere get a SOG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I can't believe they overturned that. I sure didn't see enough to say he was offsides for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 15, 2016 -> 09:33 PM) I can't believe they overturned that. I sure didn't see enough to say he was offsides for sure. I am a hockey novice, what is the exact rule for it to be considered offsides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 15, 2016 -> 09:34 PM) I am a hockey novice, what is the exact rule for it to be considered offsides? Two Skates in the zone ahead of the puck being fully past the blue line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 If they leave this stand, St Louis is going to lose their minds. What a sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 That should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 15, 2016 -> 09:40 PM) Two Skates in the zone ahead of the puck being fully past the blue line. 1 skate was over the line so offsides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Frustration not interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 15, 2016 -> 09:41 PM) 1 skate was over the line so offsides? You can have one in, you can't have two in. One in is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 Wow, this is crazy. Side note: This DJ is killing it with his choice of replay /challenge songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 15, 2016 -> 09:43 PM) No, the debate was he had both skates in the offensive zone before the puck crossed the blue line. But by less than a split second. So close. lol I apologize: So a skate on the line is or is not considered over? Because if not I'm not sure how it was offsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 15, 2016 -> 09:56 PM) Right, because that's basically a "neutral zone" right on the line. If he kept one tippy toe on the line and then the puck crossed, he'd be fine. But with both skates in and not on the blun line, with the puck just crossing the line, it's off-sides. I was wondering about it myself being unclear on the rule. He lifted his leg and it appeared to me that if you were looking straight on at the blue line, he could technically be onside because of the appearance of his leg still being above the blue line. Because of this I thought it would not be overturned. Clearly, the rule is different. If you lift your leg, even though it may look onside to the naked eye, you are judged to be fully in the zone. Quenneville may have challenged it anyway, but I give a ton of credit to Matt Meachem for actually noticing this with such little time available to notice such things. Meachem saved the day, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 15, 2016 -> 09:56 PM) Right, because that's basically a "neutral zone" right on the line. If he kept one tippy toe on the line and then the puck crossed, he'd be fine. But with both skates in and not on the blun line, with the puck just crossing the line, it's off-sides. I'm not sure if I will ever understand hockey rules lol. It look like his skate was over the blue line but I assume since it was in the air and not on the ice he was considered off-sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 15, 2016 -> 10:38 PM) I'm not sure if I will ever understand hockey rules lol. It look like his skate was over the blue line but I assume since it was in the air and not on the ice he was considered off-sides Any part of your skate as to be IN CONTACT with any part of the blueline or behind it. The reason he was offsides was because his trail skate came off the ice (therefore no longer in contact with the ice ON or BEHIND the blue line) before the entire puck crossed over all parts of the blue line. At least that's how I've always understood the rule. I'm sure some website will publish that section of the rulebook soon enough, but if my interpretation is correct, the call is actually quite obvious when you see that VERY last replay they showed after the reversal had been made. All prior angles made it hard to tell if his skate was off the ice or not. Edited April 16, 2016 by Chilihead90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 15, 2016 -> 09:56 PM) And that's how you steal one on the road. Legit stole it. Yup. In the end, the call was right, his toe was off the ice, but yeah, I'd be f***ing pissed if I were a Blues fan. It's gotta feel like deja vu for them, even though it's only tied 1-1. Kind of like a Cubs fan usually feels in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Apr 15, 2016 -> 11:14 PM) Any part of your skate as to be IN CONTACT with any part of the blueline or behind it. The reason he was offsides was because his trail skate came off the ice (therefore no longer in contact with the ice ON or BEHIND the blue line) before the entire puck crossed over all parts of the blue line. At least that's how I've always understood the rule. I'm sure some website will publish that section of the rulebook soon enough, but if my interpretation is correct, the call is actually quite obvious when you see that VERY last replay they showed after the reversal had been made. All prior angles made it hard to tell if his skate was off the ice or not. That makes more sense. I am sure a lot of Blues fans won't understand that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 16, 2016 -> 12:18 AM) That makes more sense. I am sure a lot of Blues fans won't understand that A very small percentage will. as soon as you lift that back skate off the ice you are in the offensive zone. That's his bad for not dragging it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Every time St Louis tries to get under the Hawks skin, it completely backfires on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 16, 2016 -> 08:56 AM) Every time St Louis tries to get under the Hawks skin, it completely backfires on them Look at their reaction on Shaws goal. Like frustrated children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 16, 2016 -> 06:29 AM) A very small percentage will. as soon as you lift that back skate off the ice you are in the offensive zone. That's his bad for not dragging it. I live in STL and I am seeing a lot of "refs screwed us" posts on social media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 16, 2016 -> 03:21 PM) I live in STL and I am seeing a lot of "refs screwed us" posts on social media Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 https://twitter.com/mkmolnar/status/721510237233131521 That's a good goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 16, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) Chicago fans would be doing the same thing if it were the other way around. Also, I'm sorry for you living in St. Louis. I'd be pissed if I had both of those calls go against my team too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Apr 16, 2016 -> 08:45 PM) https://twitter.com/mkmolnar/status/721510237233131521 That's a good goal? It was definitely over the line. Does it change anything when the goalie intentionally knocks the net off? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 16, 2016 -> 09:00 PM) It was definitely over the line. Does it change anything when the goalie intentionally knocks the net off? I don't know. The ruling was Roussell didn't specifically kick the puck and the pegs were still down when the puck crossed the line. Really weird stuff. Dallas doesn't look good tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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