kitekrazy Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 In Ventura's defense, it's really difficult to have confidence in the pen lately. It's starting to look like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 03:25 PM) Hey, going out to a baseball game is still a fun day. You just have to go expecting that the team will lose and not be mad if they do. And there should be plenty of cheap season ticket seats on StubHub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) From watching the game it turned so quickly that I don't think they had anyone ready to come in until after Miggy's at bat. That's a comment on both the preparation of the coaching staff and just the reality of how it went. He was pitching to VMart with 108 pitches and it would have been a really good place to bring in Petricka to try to get the GIDP. That's what it felt like to me -- everyone was caught off guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 03:43 PM) WHERE IS PUTNAM!!??! On a slow bus to Charlotte???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxt Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 08:48 PM) In Ventura's defense, it's really difficult to have confidence in the pen lately. It's starting to look like last year. Of everything said on this thread, this would be the only justification for rolling the dice and going with the starter. Our pen has become very awful recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 09:46 PM) From watching the game it turned so quickly that I don't think they had anyone ready to come in until after Miggy's at bat. That's a comment on both the preparation of the coaching staff and just the reality of how it went. He was pitching to VMart with 108 pitches and it would have been a really good place to bring in Petricka to try to get the GIDP. That's all I could think of too. You have a fellow pitching that is a #1 or #2 starter on about any team and it's like with the snap of a finger he disintegrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Watched right up to the point that Samardzija had two on no out. I've see that movie too many times. 2007 starring Jerry Owens and Darrin Erstad was easier to stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 04:23 PM) That's all I could think of too. You have a fellow pitching that is a #1 or #2 starter on about any team and it's like with the snap of a finger he disintegrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 03:18 PM) That win might again wake up the Tigers. Just as the Sox wake up the Indians and Twins. What a disgusting baseball team. How could anybody in their right mind pay to go to a Sox game the rest of the season? I'd puke handing over the money for parking or a 10 dollar burger at this point. I'm going on the 4th for my Jenks bobble head. I'll go a few more times. I like watching Sale, Q, and Rodon pitch in person. And it'll be cheap. And nobody will be there. My summer tradition pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 02:15 PM) this is starting to, for me, is the reason why RV needs to go. why wasn't the pen being active at the 6 inning or the start of the 7. take out Jeff earlier. who is the manager, who cares if Jeff didn't want to come out. Peavy pushed him around too. Just not a leader. Please follow Ryno's lead. RV, and let's just agree that it didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 08:48 PM) In Ventura's defense, it's really difficult to have confidence in the pen lately. It's starting to look like last year. it doesn't matter, RV is the boss, he should have had the pen warming up in the 6 and bring in a rp in the 7. the #1 pitcher or even the #2 sp of any rotation, needs to have a rp / cl come in.... better yet, how many pitchers fully pitched a complete game??? those kind of complete games is from another era. i remember when it was understood, at a certain inning, a rp will be coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 10:12 PM) Peavy pushed him around too. Just not a leader. Please follow Ryno's lead. RV, and let's just agree that it didn't work out. just like Sale did last yr. for those who want to say, this is but 1 game. this is the problem that has been finally magnified for all to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 06:20 PM) just like Sale did last yr. for those who want to say, this is but 1 game. this is the problem that has been finally magnified for all to see. Hopefully the object is to showcase Shark and get his value up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) Well, Marcus Semien just had his 23rd error (at a position we weren't even planning to play him). He also came 2 feet from hitting the first homer since 2013 against Wade Davis, so there's that. And Seattle, the Red Sox, Marlins, Orioles, etc., are disappointing too, blah blah blah. If anyone was holding onto the idea of the White Sox competing this season, that ending pretty much put the kibosh to those thoughts...especially with the Cardinals next. Edited June 28, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 10:43 PM) Hopefully the object is to showcase Shark and get his value up. you do have a point. but under the circumstances, RV still could have pull him on top of the 7 when the score was a great reflection of what Jeff can do. so as it is, he has 3 extra earn runs added to his yrly stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 02:43 PM) WHERE IS PUTNAM!!??! Waiting to give up the game winner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 05:23 PM) That's all I could think of too. You have a fellow pitching that is a #1 or #2 starter on about any team and it's like with the snap of a finger he disintegrated. With a 4 run lead and the 8th inning/>90 pitches, someone ought to have been warming up to start the inning just in case. With that pitch count he wasn't likely to take the full 9th inning especially when Cabrera would have been up in the 9th even if the 8th was an easy inning. Warming a guy up to start the 8th would have been a smart precaution and the pitcher would almost certainly have been used in the 9th if Samardzija had an easy inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 First win all year for Detroit while trailing after 7 innings...............Sox love to be the first for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 well that sucked... but it didn't hurt as much being that ive already given up on the post season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 03:15 PM) this is starting to, for me, is the reason why RV needs to go. why wasn't the pen being active at the 6 inning or the start of the 7. take out Jeff earlier. who is the manager, who cares if Jeff didn't want to come out. Uhh, didn't Jeff have like 90 pitches going into the 8th? Why would the pen be up in the 6th or even the 7th. Admittedly I missed the 5th 6th and 7th, was he starting to get roughed up before the 8th or something? Edit looking at the play by play... He gave up 2 hits in 7 innings and was under 100 pitches going into the 8th. Why on earth are you complaining about the bullpen nit being up in the 6th or 7th. Thats just beyond silly. Edited June 29, 2015 by scs787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 11:17 PM) Uhh, didn't Jeff have like 90 pitches going into the 8th? Why would the pen be up in the 6th or even the 7th. Admittedly I missed the 5th 6th and 7th, was he starting to get roughed up before the 8th or something? Edit looking at the play by play... He gave up 2 hits in 7 innings and was under 100 pitches going into the 8th. Why on earth are you complaining about the bullpen nit being up in the 6th or 7th. Thats just beyond silly. I thought it was a clear mistake when Robin took out Sale. I kind of don't care as much as I did even a week ago... but yeah Jeff was starting to crumble, but it was much more of a toss up for Robin. However in this case I'm not sure any bull pen pitchers could have saved it... BUT Why not Roberston? Save chance and not his runners on base. Edited June 29, 2015 by harkness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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