Rosenbloom on the Sox

[Whitewashed in '05]

Say what you want about my idol, Ozzie. Can you imagine if his team was playing like this?? He'd be all over these guys in the press and in their faces in the dugout. Talk about entertainment! He'd take them to task.

Hahahaha this has to be a joke. Maybe he forgot the green text.

[nickofypres]

Greg is a troll, right?

Edited June 30, 2015 by woods of ypres

[Quin]

Greg do you forget Ozzie's bad years?

[greg775]

Greg is a troll, right?

I'm a longtime Ozzie supporter. I never stopped supporting him.

 

Greg do you forget Ozzie's bad years?

Yes but remember I blame KW as much or more than Ozzie. I conceded that Kenny won the war over Ozzie. Jerry sided with Ken.

[LDF]

I'm a longtime Ozzie supporter. I never stopped supporting him.

 

Greg has every right to misinformed and have this no fault affinity about ozzie, just like everyone is about anything else.

 

ozzie should not have been looking for a job while in the employment of the sox.

ozzie should not have let his son run rampant as he did against the sox

ozzie should not have taken and kind of recourse for his son not getting drafted.

 

this was the beginning of the domino effect that lead to open hostility within the ranks of the management team, that made the final out come even worse than it should have.

Edited June 30, 2015 by LDF

[Y2Jimmy0]

Greg is a troll, right?

 

 

LOL. Nope I'm afraid not.

[greg775]

Greg has every right to misinformed and have this no fault affinity about ozzie, just like everyone is about anything else.

 

ozzie should not have been looking for a job while in the employment of the sox.

ozzie should not have let his son run rampant as he did against the sox

ozzie should not have taken and kind of recourse for his son not getting drafted.

 

this was the beginning of the domino effect that lead to open hostility within the ranks of the management team, that made the final out come even worse than it should have.

Not a bad take at all. As far as your first point on Ozzie, everybody knew he was gone. Nobody minded him "looking for a job" if that means accepting phone calls from those nutjobs in Miami. The Sox were grateful at that point Miami "stole" him.

Good point about his son. Looking back I agree the son had to stifle. That was stupid and Ozzie did allow him to make a fool of himself. Dad had to tell kid to shut the f*** up. I agree now.

And about son not getting drafted, I do agree there now as well. Ozzie's kids should have shut the f*** up. Ozzie had a good job and high paying job and his kids needed to respect dad by staying out of it. Kenny also probly should not have drafted his own kid.

 

LOL. Nope I'm afraid not.

Thanks. Glad to see some support!

 

 

[kitekrazy]

I wanted Sandy Alomar Jr when Robin was hired and I still do. The guy has been in baseball his whole life and I feel that former catchers have a higher rate of success as managers.

 

So why have other teams passed on him?

[kitekrazy]

These so called baseball expert analysts can say what they want. Baseball players are professional athletes and are ADULTS! If they don't perform you don't treat them like children you move them. Find someone else to play if you truly feel these guys can't perform. I just got done listening to similar stuff on MLB network. They have no idea what happened to the Sox and a couple said they had picked the Sox to win after their off season moves. The Sox effort yo win now appears to have failed big time and we have no back up plan as far as developing our own. They think the Sx picked poorly in the draft for a decade but the last couple years have shown good moves, but there are no major league ready position players. The Indians on the other hand are seen as being able to recover faster. Seems the Sox are doomed for last place for several years.

 

If they got rid of guaranteed contracts that could be a reality.

 

[kitekrazy]

Greg has every right to misinformed and have this no fault affinity about ozzie, just like everyone is about anything else.

 

ozzie should not have been looking for a job while in the employment of the sox.

ozzie should not have let his son run rampant as he did against the sox

ozzie should not have taken and kind of recourse for his son not getting drafted.

 

this was the beginning of the domino effect that lead to open hostility within the ranks of the management team, that made the final out come even worse than it should have.

 

My theory is he would not be surprised at the performance of this current team. He sees the same things we do with the farm, ownership, and no consistent philosophy. Do you think any experienced manager would want this team?

 

If Kenny was gone I'd move Ozzie in the organization in something like player development.

 

Rumor has it Hahn still likes Ozzie.

 

[southsider2k5]

So why have other teams passed on him?

 

When it comes to Dave Martinez and Sandy Jr, this my exact worry.

[LDF]

If they got rid of guaranteed contracts that could be a reality.

nice come back. i like it.

[LDF]

My theory is he would not be surprised at the performance of this current team. He sees the same things we do with the farm, ownership, and no consistent philosophy. Do you think any experienced manager would want this team?

 

If Kenny was gone I'd move Ozzie in the organization in something like player development.

 

Rumor has it Hahn still likes Ozzie.

 

vanity..... the unmovable mountain needs to be moved.

 

the challenged is the exciting part.

[LDF]

Not a bad take at all. As far as your first point on Ozzie, everybody knew he was gone. Nobody minded him "looking for a job" if that means accepting phone calls from those nutjobs in Miami. The Sox were grateful at that point Miami "stole" him.

Good point about his son. Looking back I agree the son had to stifle. That was stupid and Ozzie did allow him to make a fool of himself. Dad had to tell kid to shut the f*** up. I agree now.

And about son not getting drafted, I do agree there now as well. Ozzie's kids should have shut the f*** up. Ozzie had a good job and high paying job and his kids needed to respect dad by staying out of it. Kenny also probly should not have drafted his own kid.

 

 

Thanks. Glad to see some support!

 

re.... no matter that, it was against the rules and ozzie flaunt it, and in a round about way, a slap to the fans who supported him.

[greg775]

re.... no matter that, it was against the rules and ozzie flaunt it, and in a round about way, a slap to the fans who supported him.

I think everybody can agree Ozzie loves the fans. Isn't he the most gracious about signing autographs and chatting up fans? That Miami thing was overblown only by butthurt message board fans. Most people knew what was really going on.

 

The Sox owner and other powers that be knew Ozzeroo and KW couldn't co-exist. They couldn't even meet and talk during the season. Something had to give and Jerry was ruling in favor of KW as he should have. KW was Ozzie's boss and Ozzie dissed him repeatedly by not agreeing to even speak with his boss.

 

Everybody knew KW was the winner in the feud. That meant Ozzie had to go and you better believe the Sox brass didn't care that Ozzie was getting hired by Miami. It was the last week or two of the season and the Sox were lousy, going nowhere. Miami's moronic owners thought they were getting a coup in Ozzie who would be loved by the Latin people in Florida. That didn't quite work out when Ozzeroo said that s*** about Castro.

But I digress. The Sox did not care that the Mouth that Roared was hired by Miami. Yes there was talk Ozzie would be allowed to come back and complete his contract with Chicago, but like I said Kenny won the battle and Miami stealing Ozzie gave the Sox brass great joy.

 

Then they had to make a huge mistake in hiring Robin. Robin wasn't even on anybody's radar, not even in baseball. That was truly stupid. Even Coop would have been a better hire at that point.

Edited July 1, 2015 by greg775

[LDF]

I think everybody can agree Ozzie loves the fans. Isn't he the most gracious about signing autographs and chatting up fans? That Miami thing was overblown only by butthurt message board fans. Most people knew what was really going on.

 

The Sox owner and other powers that be knew Ozzeroo and KW couldn't co-exist. They couldn't even meet and talk during the season. Something had to give and Jerry was ruling in favor of KW as he should have. KW was Ozzie's boss and Ozzie dissed him repeatedly by not agreeing to even speak with his boss.

 

Everybody knew KW was the winner in the feud. That meant Ozzie had to go and you better believe the Sox brass didn't care that Ozzie was getting hired by Miami. It was the last week or two of the season and the Sox were lousy, going nowhere. Miami's moronic owners thought they were getting a coup in Ozzie who would be loved by the Latin people in Florida. That didn't quite work out when Ozzeroo said that s*** about Castro.

But I digress. The Sox did not care that the Mouth that Roared was hired by Miami. Yes there was talk Ozzie would be allowed to come back and complete his contract with Chicago, but like I said Kenny won the battle and Miami stealing Ozzie gave the Sox brass great joy.

 

Then they had to make a huge mistake in hiring Robin. Robin wasn't even on anybody's radar, not even in baseball. That was truly stupid. Even Coop would have been a better hire at that point.

 

RV not withstanding, ozzie was wrong and treated, if not the fans, but the org like shiite. his success at the world series went to his head and imo he thought he was untouchable.