flavum Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) This is Sale's 100th career start. The Sox are 55-44 when he starts. That's terrible considering how good he is. Edited July 1, 2015 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 10:25 PM) This is Sale 100th career start. The Sox are 55-44 when he starts. That's terrible considering how good he is. It could be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 03:22 AM) Who in your eyes has been better? Keuchel, Archer, and Gray have been fantastic but not on Sale's level. nice question, but there has to be a standard to be used to judge the pitchers. is it based on wins, innings pitched, K's shutouts, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 09:25 PM) This is Sale 100th career start. The Sox are 55-44 when he starts. That's terrible considering how good he is. Oh my god that is the most depressing stat I've seen on here in a long time.. I'm being serious it makes me question why I love this franchise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 09:27 PM) nice question, but there has to be a standard to be used to judge the pitchers. is it based on wins, innings pitched, K's shutouts, If you judge Sale based on wins, you are f***ing crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 09:24 PM) It's the opposite, chris hasn't been on their level in anything other than the strikeout title, but I'm too tired to fight this one so I'll just link to the stats. By advanced metrics he's right up there with all of them. He leads all AL pitchers in fWAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 If Ventura called for that bunt, he is not allowed on the flight back to Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 09:29 PM) If Ventura called for that bunt, he is not allowed on the flight back to Chicago Of course he would be, he's Jerry's boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Keuchel is ahead of Sale when it comes to starting the AS Game or the Cy right now. Not really even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 09:28 PM) By advanced metrics he's right up there with all of them. He leads all AL pitchers in fWAR. Exactly. Also, Sale has 1 or 2 starts fewer than everyone else so it's not as fair to compare them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Would have been nice if Chris had a ST so his April wasn't so bad but alas he didn't and it is what it is. You can make a case for him now with stats and I think you'll be able to make a better case as the season goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 09:24 PM) It's the opposite, chris hasn't been on their level in anything other than the strikeout title, but I'm too tired to fight this one so I'll just link to the stats. If you look at ERA. Otherwise, utterly false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 09:35 PM) If you look at ERA. Otherwise, utterly false. Sale still has plenty of time to lower his ERA as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 If the season ended today there's no way Sale wins the Cy Young of course but if he keeps up this recent level the rest of the year he will run away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 09:24 PM) It's the opposite, chris hasn't been on their level in anything other than the strikeout title, but I'm too tired to fight this one so I'll just link to the stats. Lol...at least put some effort in if you're going to be a whiny little b****. For someone who constantly quotes fWAR like it's the bible, I'm shocked your using bWAR & ERA as proof that Sale hasn't been on their level. Chris has the second lowest FIP & lowest SIERA in baseball. He's arguably been the best starter in baseball and anyone saying otherwise is simply looking for reasons to complain about this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Poor Sale. His fate is predictable when his team gets him one run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Edwards Shot Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 08:19 PM) Hahaha the flail threw the bat in the stands again Condor, I'm watching your avatar more than I am the Sox when they come up to bat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) I'm in complete awe of the cardinals and what they have been able to do this year. Call up a backup outfielder from the minors and he rakes. Meanwhile on the south side there's no hope in sight. Edited July 1, 2015 by reiks12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor13 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Why has sale not thrown a change up in a while. It seems like the last time he threw it was the HR ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Couldn't see from the OF but who f***ed up, Abreu or Avi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 110 pitches but you can't take him out. He'd be too pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Sale hasn't K'ed anyone in a while, he looks tired. A lot of pitches again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 09:40 PM) I'm in complete awe of the cardinals and what they have been able to do this year. Call up a backup outfielder from the minors and he rakes. Meanwhile on the south side there's no hope in site. The Sox have no room for outfielders from the minors. They spend $6 million on utility level talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Defense is so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Chris Sale is god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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