flavum Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?c...mp;ymd=20150630 Charlotte underway. Marin starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Davidson walked his first AB. Respectable OBP. Hopefully he'll be up soon. Even if he sucks, let him play for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 11:26 AM) Davidson walked his first AB. Respectable OBP. Hopefully he'll be up soon. Even if he sucks, let him play for a while. I think if they end up moving Beckham or LaRoche he'll be up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Blixton Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Marin has proven that he isn't just doing it with smoke and mirrors in AAA, I wonder what his realistic ceiling is? Long man out of the bullpen? #5 Starter? Higher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 6 more scoreless for Marin, now at 28 straight. QUOTE (Bruce_Blixton @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 12:12 PM) Marin has proven that he isn't just doing it with smoke and mirrors in AAA, I wonder what his realistic ceiling is? Long man out of the bullpen? #5 Starter? Higher? Prospect profile Article he wrote Those should help you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Quick, somebody ask Keith Law if Marin projects to be an ace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 White Sox baseball... Charlotte Top of the 8th Tyler Saladino hit by pitch. Jason Coats bunt pops out to catcher Audry Perez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 01:06 PM) White Sox baseball... Charlotte Top of the 8th Tyler Saladino hit by pitch. Jason Coats bunt pops out to catcher Audry Perez. it's the minors, so they work on that stuff, but I'd hope they wouldn't take the bat out of Coats' hands like that in the majors. He's actually been kinda cold this month though, so maybe isn't so terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Marin done for the day after 7 innings. Now at 29 straight scoreless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Blixton Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 10:48 AM) 6 more scoreless for Marin, now at 28 straight. Prospect profile Article he wrote Those should help you out. Thanks, I didn't know that he raised his velocity to the mid-90s. If he can maintain that deep into games you have to believe he has a shot to crack the rotation with his type of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (Bruce_Blixton @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 01:18 PM) Thanks, I didn't know that he raised his velocity to the mid-90s. If he can maintain that deep into games you have to believe he has a shot to crack the rotation with his type of control. Important - he TOUCHES mid-90s. His fastball is usually more 91-93, which is still a couple clicks faster than he was 2 years ago. ITs a sinker really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 10:26 AM) Davidson walked his first AB. Respectable OBP. Hopefully he'll be up soon. Even if he sucks, let him play for a while. His obp is a little over .320. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 01:20 PM) His obp is a little over .320. No thanks. In his case, with that power, the lack of walks isn't the main problem in my eyes. It's the over 30% K rate that screams "don't go there" to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Blixton Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) Important - he TOUCHES mid-90s. His fastball is usually more 91-93, which is still a couple clicks faster than he was 2 years ago. ITs a sinker really. Ahhhh, that's a key difference, still if he can stay around 93 into the fifth and later then he could develop into a starter. Also a sinker/cutter mix must be a nightmare for hitters to face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 9th inning HR for Kottaras. 1-0 On Davidson, I know he's not part of the future, but neither is Beckham or Gillaspie. Maybe in August and September they give him a look, and see what they have there. For a bad team, it isn't going to hurt anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (Bruce_Blixton @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 01:22 PM) Ahhhh, that's a key difference, still if he can stay around 93 into the fifth and later then he could develop into a starter. Also a sinker/cutter mix must be a nightmare for hitters to face. Here's an interesting thought. Chris Beck has still been looked at as a Top 20 or even close to Top 10 guy in the Sox system. He and Marin are both sinker-cutter primarily, with the breaking pitches being less reliable. Marin is only one year older than Beck. Marin actually gets more ground balls than Beck does, and strikes out more guys (long term - not this year so far in small sample) than Beck does. Yet Marin wasn't even a consideration for being a T30 guy until, basically, now. Yes I know the circumstances are different, yes I know Beck at one time had a strong slider, yes I know current Marin is different than past Marin. Just saying, they have similarities, and maybe they aren't as far apart as you'd think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 And Onelki Garcia blows it in the 9th to lose 2-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 01:36 PM) And Onelki Garcia blows it in the 9th to lose 2-1. Welp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 01:27 PM) Here's an interesting thought. Chris Beck has still been looked at as a Top 20 or even close to Top 10 guy in the Sox system. He and Marin are both sinker-cutter primarily, with the breaking pitches being less reliable. Marin is only one year older than Beck. Marin actually gets more ground balls than Beck does, and strikes out more guys (long term - not this year so far in small sample) than Beck does. Yet Marin wasn't even a consideration for being a T30 guy until, basically, now. Yes I know the circumstances are different, yes I know Beck at one time had a strong slider, yes I know current Marin is different than past Marin. Just saying, they have similarities, and maybe they aren't as far apart as you'd think. I still think Beck finds his way into the rotation this year. Either him or Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (staxx @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 02:08 PM) I still think Beck finds his way into the rotation this year. Either him or Johnson. I'd greatly prefer Johnson over Beck. I'm not very high on Beck, in fact I only give him a slight edge over Marin right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) I read the article. But how do the Sox cut him from A ball one day, and not only sign him after a short stint in Indy, but sign him back into AAA? Was it simply a case of signing him back to be an org guy? Is he an org guy or a legit prospect that they just only realized? Edited June 30, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 02:56 PM) I read the article. But how do the Sox cut him from A ball one day, and not only sign him after a short stint in Indy, but sign him back into AAA? Was it simply a case of signing him back to be an org guy? Is he an org guy or a legit prospect that they just only realized? Well, to be clear... he was cut from A+... went to indy ball where he resurrected his curveball and made some mechanical changes.. Sox re-signed him to A+ again as he'd improved... Perdew worked on a cutter with him and made further tweaks, so he was getting even better... was promoted to AA... played winter ball in Mexico... Was ready to be in AA or AAA to being 2015 but they didn't have a slot for him so they "loaned" him to the Mexican League (roughly AA to AAA equivalent), where he looked good... THEN he went to AAA. He was an org guy. He made key improvements - added fastball velocity and movement, added a major league cutter, re-added his curveball - so now he's more than that. He may not turn out to be much, but he's a better pitcher than he was 2 years ago by a long shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 03:03 PM) Well, to be clear... he was cut from A+... went to indy ball where he resurrected his curveball and made some mechanical changes.. Sox re-signed him to A+ again as he'd improved... Perdew worked on a cutter with him and made further tweaks, so he was getting even better... was promoted to AA... played winter ball in Mexico... Was ready to be in AA or AAA to being 2015 but they didn't have a slot for him so they "loaned" him to the Mexican League (roughly AA to AAA equivalent), where he looked good... THEN he went to AAA. He was an org guy. He made key improvements - added fastball velocity and movement, added a major league cutter, re-added his curveball - so now he's more than that. He may not turn out to be much, but he's a better pitcher than he was 2 years ago by a long shot. Thanks I obviously missed some steps in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 If Johnson could pitch well enough to be a capable 5th starter, I'd be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 01:26 PM) 9th inning HR for Kottaras. 1-0 On Davidson, I know he's not part of the future, but neither is Beckham or Gillaspie. Maybe in August and September they give him a look, and see what they have there. For a bad team, it isn't going to hurt anyone. If the Sox thought they had anything in Davidson, he'd be here already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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