caulfield12 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 08:48 AM) Their grounds crew uses a mixture of leftover champagne from past championship celebrations, Voss + tears collected from fans of all the teams they eliminate in postseason play to achieve the most luscious, emerald hued grass in all of baseball. Dodger Blue tears.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 09:53 AM) I love Chris Sale as much as the rest, but let's be careful with the "hasn't even peaked yet" thing. Aging curves -- never rigid in the first place -- have been creeping toward the younger side for years now, and we know that velocity especially peaks very young. Pitchers that have long, HOF careers typically do so because they are able to evolve their approach and arsenal as their stuff declines. I do think that Chris can be one of those guys, but we should acknowledge that his "stuff" is as good now as it will ever be and that he isn't due to become physically more dominant just because he isn't 27 yet. There are always exceptions, of course, but they're rare. I agree, unless you're Randy Johnson your peak is probably coming in the 26-28 range. Baseball prime 10-15 years ago was 28-32 but now it's probably more like 26-30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 This thread is the smartest thing Rowand44 has said in all of his time on Soxtalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 09:53 AM) I love Chris Sale as much as the rest, but let's be careful with the "hasn't even peaked yet" thing. Aging curves -- never rigid in the first place -- have been creeping toward the younger side for years now, and we know that velocity especially peaks very young. Pitchers that have long, HOF careers typically do so because they are able to evolve their approach and arsenal as their stuff declines. I do think that Chris can be one of those guys, but we should acknowledge that his "stuff" is as good now as it will ever be and that he isn't due to become physically more dominant just because he isn't 27 yet. There are always exceptions, of course, but they're rare. That's true. Expecting Sale to get better is crazy talk. Hopefully he can hold his peak for an unusually long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Meanwhile, Cubs fans believe Starlin Castro is fair trade value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 12:13 PM) Meanwhile, Cubs fans believe Starlin Castro is fair trade value. They wouldn't be equals if they didn't have the respective contracts. Throw that in, and it is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Christopher Kamka @ckamka 2h2 hours ago Chris Sale & Clayton Kershaw have each thrown 1627 pitches this season. Sale has 251 swinging strikes; Kershaw 213 (http://baseballsavant.com ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 MLB Stat of the Day @MLBStatoftheDay 3h3 hours ago Chris Sale K’d 75 batters in the month of June. The only pitcher to have more in one June? Nolan Ryan (87 in 1977). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan 3h3 hours ago Possible AL Pitcher of Month @scottmerkin In June, Sale has pitched 41 1/3 innings. He has struck out 72, walked eight and allowed 25 hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Jayson Stark @jaysonst 2h2 hours ago Chris Sale's last 8 starts: 97 strikeouts versus just 37 hits. And 183 swings and misses. That computes to 22.9 per start. Mind-boggling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Does Sale have a shot to start the ASG or is the ERA+IP gap from Keuchel just too large? Over at /r/baseball on Reddit almost all the non-White Sox fans are voting Sale as the starter, but I doubt it will happen. God damn Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 02:18 PM) Does Sale have a shot to start the ASG or is the ERA+IP gap from Keuchel just too large? Over at /r/baseball on Reddit almost all the non-White Sox fans are voting Sale as the starter, but I doubt it will happen. God damn Twins. I actually assumed his biggest competition was Archer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 11:01 AM) This thread is the smartest thing Rowand44 has said in all of his time on Soxtalk. Fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) I actually assumed his biggest competition was Archer. FWIW, Sale is second in the Bovada Cy Young odds to Kuechel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 It's truly remarkable watching a pitcher of this caliber on our team. It has been an honor watching this dude take the mound this year. The one bright light in an otherwise forgettable White Sox season. It is a shame that fans (including myself) even brought his name up as a trade option this year. That just means our organization is in such a bad place overall. I would hate to see him 'Sale' away to another team because the men upstairs are bad at what they do. Regardless, keep doing what you do Sale! May the K Zone be forever active in your honor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 MLB Network commentators say that at this point Sale is the best pitcher in either league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 The fact that Sale is 16 over .500 with the teams he has been on is pretty impressive in itself and I don't really care about wins. The man is seriously only thing that gives me hope for the upcoming years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 07:15 PM) The fact that Sale is 16 over .500 with the teams he has been on is pretty impressive in itself and I don't really care about wins. The man is seriously only thing that gives me hope for the upcoming years. Another Danks hater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 05:34 PM) Another Danks hater. John Danks was at one point my favorite player on the Sox... then it was Gordon Beckham... I'm sticking to utility players from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 07:38 PM) John Danks was at one point my favorite player on the Sox... then it was Gordon Beckham... I'm sticking to utility players from now on. Could I suggest adding some other teams players? Could I interest you in a Miguel Cabera fandom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 @CST_soxvan White Sox' Chris Sale named AL Pitcher of the Month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 His 766 strikeouts through his first 100 career starts are the highest total in major-league history, according to Elias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 1, 2015 -> 06:54 PM) Could I suggest adding some other teams players? Could I interest you in a Miguel Cabera fandom? If I could muster it and take one for the team I'd just name the Twins my favorite team. Unfortunately I don't think I've ever hated any team more ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 1h1 hour ago Interesting note on Chris Sale and Pedro Martinez as pointed out by the honorable Dan Cichalski of http://MLB.com : In 1999, Pedro struck out 10+ in his last eight starts, but on Oct. 2, he pitched one inning in relief and struck out just one. Then... Pedro struck out 10+ in his first two starts of 2000. So he has fanned 10+ in eight straight games and 10 straight starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 3h3 hours ago Since May 12, this is Chris Sale: 85 innings pitched, 7 starts of at least eight innings, 50 H, 17 ER, 12 BB, 121 K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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