LDF Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 15, 2015 -> 08:14 PM) White Sox would need more than just Gallo for me, agree. but i thought i had Q's value too high. nice that i am not wrong in my thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) http://www.fangraphs.com/community/chris-s...-dominant-june/ nice article in June Sale had the most valuable slider, 4 Seam FB, and change up of any qualified pitcher in MLB the next pitcher behind him on each of those pitch values were all relievers Edited July 16, 2015 by Real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 It looks like even though he didn't pitch in the ASG, Sale still will sit out the entire KC series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 01:38 PM) It looks like even though he didn't pitch in the ASG, Sale still will sit out the entire KC series. Where did you see this? I'm hoping he's not hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 01:52 PM) Where did you see this? I'm hoping he's not hurt. The Score is reporting it. Off day Monday would give him a 10 day break, just like skipping a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 02:01 PM) The Score is reporting it. Off day Monday would give him a 10 day break, just like skipping a start. What's the point of skipping him right now though? He's already been off for a week, and they need to beat KC if they want to be in contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 02:06 PM) What's the point of skipping him right now though? He's already been off for a week, and they need to beat KC if they want to be in contention. Dumb if true. This is the biggest series of the year so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 02:08 PM) Dumb if true. This is the biggest series of the year so far. Exactly. If the Sox lose 3/4 or get swept, forget it. Then the trades would start coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 02:06 PM) What's the point of skipping him right now though? He's already been off for a week, and they need to beat KC if they want to be in contention. Look at Chris Sale's career so far, and think about it. One of two things is going on. Either the Sox are paranoid about his arm falling off, and seeing as he has missed some time in each season as a starter in his career, that might be well founded. Or #2, he is hurt, and they are trying not to go public with that fact, which make the ASG fiasco make a lot more sense, and it also makes his "extra rest" make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 02:14 PM) Look at Chris Sale's career so far, and think about it. One of two things is going on. Either the Sox are paranoid about his arm falling off, and seeing as he has missed some time in each season as a starter in his career, that might be well founded. Or #2, he is hurt, and they are trying not to go public with that fact, which make the ASG fiasco make a lot more sense, and it also makes his "extra rest" make sense. Or he'll pitch Sunday and this is nothing but some clown on the Score's speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 02:15 PM) Or he'll pitch Sunday and this is nothing but some clown on the Score's speculation. I believe if there was no worry at all, he'd be pitching ASAP. There is at least some level of fear if they are giving him 7 days rest, even if it is just maintenance related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 02:19 PM) I believe if there was no worry at all, he'd be pitching ASAP. There is at least some level of fear if they are giving him 7 days rest, even if it is just maintenance related. You'd think they'd announce if he's injured or something. It seems odd that they're being so quiet about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 02:53 PM) You'd think they'd announce if he's injured or something. It seems odd that they're being so quiet about it. Why? Do you go advertising your shortfalls to your competitors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 03:33 PM) Why? Do you go advertising your shortfalls to your competitors? No. You advertise your commodity to your fanbase. People want to see Sale pitch, so I think that it would be in the Sox best interests to let us know when he'll pitch again so we can get tickets. He is the best moneymaker the Sox currently have. They'd be stupid to not take advantage of it. Edited July 16, 2015 by Mike F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 03:40 PM) No. You advertise your commodity to your fanbase. People want to see Sale pitch, so I think that it would be in the Sox best interests to let us know when he'll pitch again so we can get tickets. He is the best moneymaker the Sox currently have. They'd be stupid to not take advantage of it. Exactly. So instead of telling the fan base not to buy tickets because he isn't going to pitch soon, they are leaving the door open that he might be pitching sooner. Honestly the fact that they still haven't set a date yet tells me everything I need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 03:41 PM) Exactly. So instead of telling the fan base not to buy tickets because he isn't going to pitch soon, they are leaving the door open that he might be pitching sooner. Honestly the fact that they still haven't set a date yet tells me everything I need to know. and that would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 03:43 PM) and that would be? He is nursing some sort of pain, and they are waiting it out. If this was just rest, they would have already set the date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 03:45 PM) He is nursing some sort of pain, and they are waiting it out. If this was just rest, they would have already set the date. That's what I've been thinking as well. It just seems fishy to me that they're giving him extra rest after he's already been off for a week, but who knows at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 03:50 PM) That's what I've been thinking as well. It just seems fishy to me that they're giving him extra rest after he's already been off for a week, but who knows at this point. Not if he is resting some type of soreness. Not necessarily a significant injury, just one of his sore elbow issues or shoulder soreness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 08:06 PM) What's the point of skipping him right now though? He's already been off for a week, and they need to beat KC if they want to be in contention. Clearly the Sox org feels beating the Cardinals and helping the Cubs is more important than beating the Royals Just have to hope it's nothing serious with Sale right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 really not liking the going out to pitch the 8th up 5-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Maybe it's just a really nice time to give the horse a little break- he's been chasing those bandits through the desert without much rest & water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GamesToLove Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 People are showing up this weekend anyway for the '05 reunion. This makes all sorts of sense, including business sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Hahn said this morning on the radio that Sale will likely start on Sunday. He said he feels great and is ready to go. So TIFWIW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 09:10 AM) Hahn said this morning on the radio that Sale will likely start on Sunday. He said he feels great and is ready to go. So TIFWIW That's a good sign. However, Sale seems like the type that wants the ball every time out even when he isn't fully healthy, so hopefully he isn't pitching hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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