The Ginger Kid Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 HOLD ON -- "THREE YEAR PLAN"?? I thought I was a pretty astute follower of Sox news but unless my memory fails me, this week is the first time I remember reading ANYTHING about a so-called "three year plan." I do remember letting Mark Buehrle walk after 2011 and saying that this was the first step in rebuilding. So if my math is right, that was three seasons ago...which means we're in the 4th season of a rebuild...right? I get so confused, Kenny. Please tell me, what plan are we on now and what stage of the plan are we in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 08:26 AM) HOLD ON -- "THREE YEAR PLAN"?? I thought I was a pretty astute follower of Sox news but unless my memory fails me, this week is the first time I remember reading ANYTHING about a so-called "three year plan." I do remember letting Mark Buehrle walk after 2011 and saying that this was the first step in rebuilding. So if my math is right, that was three seasons ago...which means we're in the 4th season of a rebuild...right? I get so confused, Kenny. Please tell me, what plan are we on now and what stage of the plan are we in? Kenny Williams has ALWAYS had a three year plan. It has been referenced very often over his time as GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I just hope they dont have a delusional plan and not make any moves at all. I am afraid they are fooling themselves into thinking this team still has a chance just because they are 5 1/2 games out of the wild card. Sure the whole team doesnt need to be blown up but they should certainly be building towards next year at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 09:22 AM) Kenny Williams has ALWAYS had a three year plan. It has been referenced very often over his time as GM. His last two three year plans resulted in zero playoff appearances. This one is not off to a roaring start either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 09:29 AM) His last two three year plans resulted in zero playoff appearances. This one is not off to a roaring start either. Do not question the organization! You may be banished, or worse!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 02:26 PM) HOLD ON -- "THREE YEAR PLAN"?? I thought I was a pretty astute follower of Sox news but unless my memory fails me, this week is the first time I remember reading ANYTHING about a so-called "three year plan." I do remember letting Mark Buehrle walk after 2011 and saying that this was the first step in rebuilding. So if my math is right, that was three seasons ago...which means we're in the 4th season of a rebuild...right? I get so confused, Kenny. Please tell me, what plan are we on now and what stage of the plan are we in? if i remember correctly, the sox signed someone and brought up the salary to 90 +/- mil. then the excitement took over. Hahn mention that the sox had a 3 yr plan and he was getting excited about the team and invest by getting a couple more of fa's. then the rebuilding stop. either way, why all of the sudden mention of the 3-yr plan, i mean why now??? they could have reenforce that msg last month or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:26 PM) I just hope they dont have a delusional plan and not make any moves at all. I am afraid they are fooling themselves into thinking this team still has a chance just because they are 5 1/2 games out of the wild card. Sure the whole team doesnt need to be blown up but they should certainly be building towards next year at this point. exactly trying to keep the team and let faith take its course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Why doesnt Kenny just keep his mouth shut? Does he think that putting off the perception of transparency is going to help them with the public opinion and support of Sox fans?... No its not helping dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:41 PM) Why doesnt Kenny just keep his mouth shut? Does he think that putting off the perception of transparency is going to help them with the public opinion and support of Sox fans?... No its not helping dude. i asked that same question several times before, when he spouted some bullshiite prep talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 09:41 AM) Why doesnt Kenny just keep his mouth shut? Does he think that putting off the perception of transparency is going to help them with the public opinion and support of Sox fans?... No its not helping dude. Then you get a part of the fan base who swears he never takes responsibility for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:47 PM) Then you get a part of the fan base who swears he never takes responsibility for anything. good point, but to keep talking to the press??? let the team get pasted this horrible start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 09:55 AM) good point, but to keep talking to the press??? let the team get pasted this horrible start. It is a relationship. Kenny talks to them so that they can be used later. it is the same relationship that all GMs have with the media in this town, with a couple of exceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) It is a relationship. Kenny talks to them so that they can be used later. it is the same relationship that all GMs have with the media in this town, with a couple of exceptions. i just don't know. maybe it is my dislike of KW since the late 90's that stops me from thinking logically. so i am lost here. i still think this is not the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 09:57 AM) It is a relationship. Kenny talks to them so that they can be used later. it is the same relationship that all GMs have with the media in this town, with a couple of exceptions. For some reason all I get when Kenny has been talking is his ego. I don't get that he has some grandiose plan or that he is posturing with the media or other teams. He wants to show that he is still in charge and the mastermind. He cant stand to be out of the spotlight that he had when he was GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 04:02 PM) For some reason all I get when Kenny has been talking is his ego. I don't get that he has some grandiose plan or that he is posturing with the media or other teams. He wants to show that he is still in charge and the mastermind. He cant stand to be out of the spotlight that he had when he was GM. i agree, i wish someone would remind him of his dutiful effort of epic failure of building the farm with lousy draft picks. this state of this team is b/c of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 10:02 AM) For some reason all I get when Kenny has been talking is his ego. I don't get that he has some grandiose plan or that he is posturing with the media or other teams. He wants to show that he is still in charge and the mastermind. He cant stand to be out of the spotlight that he had when he was GM. Kenny's ego wasn't talking in this last interview. It was a message to the rest of baseball to try to drive up the asking price for Samardjiza, and anyone else that people have interest in. He drove home the point they aren't selling, not for the fans, but for opposing GMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 01:05 PM) Kenny's ego wasn't talking in this last interview. It was a message to the rest of baseball to try to drive up the asking price for Samardjiza, and anyone else that people have interest in. He drove home the point they aren't selling, not for the fans, but for opposing GMs. Can I go back to making the joke about everything Kenny says being 100% the opposite of reality yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 10:05 AM) i agree, i wish someone would remind him of his dutiful effort of epic failure of building the farm with lousy draft picks. this state of this team is b/c of him. He knows. He has talked about the state of our farm system many times in the past. The farm system was sacrificed to spend more on major leaguers. That has changed over the last few years as we are spending more and more outside of the major league ball club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 12:05 PM) Kenny's ego wasn't talking in this last interview. It was a message to the rest of baseball to try to drive up the asking price for Samardjiza, and anyone else that people have interest in. He drove home the point they aren't selling, not for the fans, but for opposing GMs. Right now you are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that I am not. I honestly would not be shocked if they didnt make any major moves before the ASB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) Right now you are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that I am not. I honestly would not be shocked if they didnt make any major moves before the ASB. Kenny Williams is a lot of things. Stupid is not one of them. This isn't Ozzie Guillen and his 5th grade education we are talking about here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 12:20 PM) Kenny Williams is a lot of things. Stupid is not one of them. This isn't Ozzie Guillen and his 5th grade education we are talking about here. Many smart men have failed at their jobs at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 05:20 PM) Kenny Williams is a lot of things. Stupid is not one of them. This isn't Ozzie Guillen and his 5th grade education we are talking about here. that was harsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 11:24 AM) that was harsh. By a mod no less and he's also wrong. Classless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 01:34 PM) By a mod no less and he's also wrong. Classless. Yeah, he has an 8th grade education. Why is the truth classless? But if education matters in baseball, KW has a freshman in college education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 09:47 AM) Then you get a part of the fan base who swears he never takes responsibility for anything. Pretty easy to always stand up and take responsibility for continuous failures when it is seemingly clear at this point that there will be no ramifications whatsoever from above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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