CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 03:01 PM) I dont think the Sox will be willing to take the hit of 100% tax penalty that it will take to sign this guy. I really dont see there being any other way to get him. The Cubs have seem to throw everything but the kitchen sink at these international players without a care of the penalty so I would bet they will probably get him too. I was totally shocked when the Red Sox threw $72M at Rusney Castillo . I think in that thread I called it nuts . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Most people were saying Giants/Dodgers for Martinez but Jesse Sanchez said Sox were interested and nobody ruled out. Cubs mentioned too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 1, 2015 -> 02:15 PM) Most people were saying Giants/Dodgers for Martinez but Jesse Sanchez said Sox were interested and nobody ruled out. Cubs mentioned too. I know that was what was being said around July 2, and since then I don't think I have seen a single thing said about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 1, 2015 -> 04:29 PM) I know that was what was being said around July 2, and since then I don't think I have seen a single thing said about him. Yeah hard to believe there hasn't been any news on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Jesse Sanchez @JesseSanchezMLB Aug 10 Cuban OF Eddy Julio Martinez held an open showcase for teams in DR. LAD, ATL, SF, CWS, CIN, SEA, Cubs among teams. http://atmlb.com/1IQX6Rt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 12, 2015 -> 09:00 AM) Jesse Sanchez @JesseSanchezMLB Aug 10 Cuban OF Eddy Julio Martinez held an open showcase for teams in DR. LAD, ATL, SF, CWS, CIN, SEA, Cubs among teams. http://atmlb.com/1IQX6Rt When are the LAD, Cubs, and SF no longer ble to sign because of going over their international limits? Next July 2nd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 05:16 PM) If they are serious, I wish they had played it smarter and taken full advantage of the 2 year penalty they'd get. It is likely to only be a one year penalty with the new CBA coming in the mean time. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 09:23 PM) Yeah, they didn't envision teams taking this approach. The rules will change next time for sure. International draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Aug 12, 2015 -> 10:48 AM) When are the LAD, Cubs, and SF no longer ble to sign because of going over their international limits? Next July 2nd? Next year and they'll probably get two despite the fact the CBA is going to expire after next year. Mlb will honor their punishment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Aug 12, 2015 -> 02:25 PM) Next year and they'll probably get two despite the fact the CBA is going to expire after next year. Mlb will honor their punishment I would imagine if they go to an INTL draft, they think up a penalty, such as no first round pick, no first and second round pick, etc, which is commisserate with how far over the cap they went, remembering that there are few different levels of being over. The first level is a just a fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Atlanta is not going to sign him, they plan to go way over in 2016 and have Maitan already locked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Is this guy a star? This could cure a lot of ills if he's a good hitter/outfielder. Sign him and trade Melky and one of Eaton/Avi perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 12, 2015 -> 02:45 PM) Is this guy a star? This could cure a lot of ills if he's a good hitter/outfielder. Sign him and trade Melky and one of Eaton/Avi perhaps? Supposedly if he was draft eligible this year, he probably would have been the #1 pick in the MLB draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GamesToLove Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 12, 2015 -> 02:45 PM) Is this guy a star? This could cure a lot of ills if he's a good hitter/outfielder. Sign him and trade Melky and one of Eaton/Avi perhaps? Sign him and the other guys will find playing time somewhere else. He's also only 20 so would probably need some time in the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Do that it takes and sign this guy if he's worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Apparently the Sox don't really wanna be players in Int'l free agency either @JesseSanchezMLB: Source: Giants and Eddie Julio Martinez, ranked #4 on @MLB int'l prospect list, have agreed to a $2.5 million deal. http://t.co/7cqNWTtPTy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 12, 2015 -> 01:36 PM) I would imagine if they go to an INTL draft, they think up a penalty, such as no first round pick, no first and second round pick, etc, which is commisserate with how far over the cap they went, remembering that there are few different levels of being over. The first level is a just a fine. Commensurate Commiserate is what we'll be doing when another year of (young) impact players from abroad has passed us by... Edited October 4, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 You know, it's possible that this guy isn't as impressive as people thought. The fact that he signed for so little tells me that 29 teams weren't willing to go higher. The Sox should save their pennies and go big next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 ........what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 06:45 PM) Commensurate Commiserate is what we'll be doing when another year of (young) impact players from abroad has passed us by... i didn't think any signing was going to happen, as sad as it is. the owners doesn't see a need for him. they have some depth in the minors and that is all they are going to do. hope that they develop. they will not spend extra money if they don't have too. i really do hope the prospect really develop esp hawkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 12:39 PM) Apparently the Sox don't really wanna be players in Int'l free agency either @JesseSanchezMLB: Source: Giants and Eddie Julio Martinez, ranked #4 on @MLB int'l prospect list, have agreed to a $2.5 million deal. http://t.co/7cqNWTtPTy 29 other teams also declined to sign him for that bargain price, so to me that's a red flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 12:39 PM) Apparently the Sox don't really wanna be players in Int'l free agency either @JesseSanchezMLB: Source: Giants and Eddie Julio Martinez, ranked #4 on @MLB int'l prospect list, have agreed to a $2.5 million deal. http://t.co/7cqNWTtPTy That is bizarre. That is a fraction of the expected price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I'm just curious here, but if the Sox spent the $2.5 (or a little higher to get him like 2.6), would that have put them over their limit for this year where they would be penalized? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 06:50 PM) I'm just curious here, but if the Sox spent the $2.5 (or a little higher to get him like 2.6), would that have put them over their limit for this year where they would be penalized? Yes. IIRC, they were under $500k left before they hit the penalty phase and lost out on two years worth of signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 05:54 PM) Yes. IIRC, they were under $500k left before they hit the penalty phase and lost out on two years worth of signings. Well good then. Let's all hope they come out guns blazin next July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 keithlaw @keithlaw 4m4 minutes ago Eddy Julio Martinez is not signing with the Giants and remains a free agent. Hey now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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