southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 07:00 PM) keithlaw @keithlaw 4m4 minutes ago Eddy Julio Martinez is not signing with the Giants and remains a free agent. Hey now.... One of two things happened... He got a couple of offers that blew away the $2.5 million, or this story was a plant to drum up some interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 07:03 PM) One of two things happened... He got a couple of offers that blew away the $2.5 million, or this story was a plant to drum up some interest. Kiley McDaniel said he got 7M plus offers from multiple teams but didn't bite in hopes of getting a bigger offer, which didn't come. Bobby Evans was kinda wishy washy In his remarks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 44m44 minutes ago Eddy Julio Martinez isn't signing w/Giants, per @keithlaw. He's seeking a $3MM bonus, says @JesseSanchezMLB. Latest: http://bit.ly/1jcjb88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Last I looked, BA had him outside of the top 15 players from Cuba, so it isn't as if the hype is unanimous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Cubs got him. 3MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Well we didn't need positional talent anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Did word of this signing interrupt Hahn's afternoon nap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Two things: 1. The Cubs have already blown way past the spending limit, so to them, this isn't a big deal. Just a few more pennies. 2. The fact he got less than a third of what was projected tells me he ain't all that. Bottom line, it didn't make much sense for the Sox to sign this guy and lose the ability to sign anyone for over 300K next year when they can just clean up next offseason. Now if that doesn't happen then yeah, sucks. Watch them come in under again next year. Reinsdorf is such a tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I have 0 confidence we will clean up next year. That's rule breaking. Jerry would never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 QUOTE (daggins @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 07:11 PM) Cubs got him. 3MM I really hope the Sox are planning on going over budget next year or this is going to start getting really embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 08:38 PM) I really hope the Sox are planning on going over budget next year or this is going to start getting really embarrassing. Well they do go over budget IMO when spending on veteran NL talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 09:02 PM) I have 0 confidence we will clean up next year. That's rule breaking. Jerry would never. I was under the impression Jerry's loyalty was to Selig. I'm still not very confident in them going over, but maybe we get lucky and he does it out of spite against that young punk Manfred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Jerry's a plutocrat, man. He's a symbol of anti-union, owner-dominated baseball. He has to stay in line with the policies he supported (and helped write) that keep money away from players and power concentrated at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 10:01 PM) Well they do go over budget IMO when spending on veteran NL talent. Great post. That says it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 It wouldn't have made sense for the Sox to sign this guy and take the penalties unless he was a sure thing. Considering his signing bonus, he is not. If they were over and not going to be able to get guys the next 2 years already, it made a ton of sense, but to blow 2 more signing periods over 1 guy , unless he is the next Andruw Jones, doesn't make much sense. Besides, they probably already have a couple of commitments for the next signing period. Hopefully, they go radically over one of these years. That is one stupid loophole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 9, 2015 -> 08:44 AM) It wouldn't have made sense for the Sox to sign this guy and take the penalties unless he was a sure thing. Considering his signing bonus, he is not. If they were over and not going to be able to get guys the next 2 years already, it made a ton of sense, but to blow 2 more signing periods over 1 guy , unless he is the next Andruw Jones, doesn't make much sense. Besides, they probably already have a couple of commitments for the next signing period. Hopefully, they go radically over one of these years. That is one stupid loophole. Agree. It is a dumb loophole and it did only make sense for teams who had already gone over. They better go out this year with the big dogs out but it would be so White Sox not to. It would be cool to hear some names that they may have pre-agreements with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Cubs got him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 QUOTE (daggins @ Oct 8, 2015 -> 07:11 PM) Cubs got him. 3MM QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Oct 19, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) Cubs got him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Funny, I just saw it reported today by Jon Heyman and Baseball America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 No issues with the sox not signing him. No brainer for the Cubs, though. Next year, the Sox better spend big. It will be the last year with this system, and there will be a lot of talent, supposedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Oct 19, 2015 -> 04:23 PM) Funny, I just saw it reported today by Jon Heyman and Baseball America Probably because it's confirmed, and the history of what had happened prior with giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 19, 2015 -> 04:28 PM) Probably because it's confirmed, and the history of what had happened prior with giants. I think they had a hearing over it. One team was dealing with street agents, I think the Cubs, while the Giants were dealing by text with what they believed to be their registered agent. Cubs win. Hopefully their last one for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Re: Reinsdorf and the spending limits, let's be clear that the way the Cubs and some others are doing it is not cheating. Breaking the rules implies that they have acted against them. The Cubs and their ilk are acting within the rules, which specify various consequences when you spend beyond the limit. They think it is better to do it this way and the rules allow them to. Jerry can do this as well and I would imagine the reason he doesn't do that is because it is very expensive and very risky, two things he really has never supported in terms of amateur players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 QUOTE (ron883 @ Oct 19, 2015 -> 04:24 PM) No issues with the sox not signing him. No brainer for the Cubs, though. Next year, the Sox better spend big. It will be the last year with this system, and there will be a lot of talent, supposedly. Sox spend big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Abreu and Tanaka or even Shark (if that long-term deal was actually offered) aren't comparable to spending on a Viciedo, Puig or Soler...younger guys who are mostly projections. Cespedes is the closest comp in terms of being a veteran guy close to his prime. We have Adolfo, but that's still a lottery ticket, moreso than Semien's comp pick even.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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