Balta1701 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 03:23 PM) Danks is a starter in name only and a pretty worthless one at that. He's still actually tolerable as the #5 starter (0.6 fWAR). The problem is our offense is so bad that we're relying on the starting rotation to all be hall-of-fame caliber and so "tolerable" doesn't get us there. that plus he's paid way too much for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 02:16 PM) Very dumb. As much as I do love Danks, I concede that is an automatic loss in Game Two Friday. Why would you throw Danks there?? It makes absolutely no sense. I agree with the poster. The Sox are basically in a position they have to sweep the Royals or grudgingly win 3 of the 4 to have any shot at contention this season. So why wouldn't you give it your best shot, at home! You go Sale, Shark, Q, Rodon. I worship John Danks but I do concede he is our fifth starter!! This is a no brainer. Fire whoever came up with this decision NOW! Coop, Robin or Hahn. Stupid. Has there every been anything you didn't overreact to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 QUOTE (shysocks @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 02:27 PM) Has there every been anything you didn't overreact to? You should have been there the day they gave him sharp cheddar instead of cheddar at the deli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 If they wait til Tuesday for Sale, it will feel like a "really, we'd rather not maintain a charade of competing, and would like to do dome selling" kind of move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 i am wavering around here. 1 part of me is saying, the sox can comeback. but the other is saying no, the sox should think of trading shark, if the price is right. if it is the second, i rather shelf Sale, instead of running him out there to get hurt, or limit him games and innings. should the sox chance sale getting hurt?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 05:48 PM) i am wavering around here. 1 part of me is saying, the sox can comeback. but the other is saying no, the sox should think of trading shark, if the price is right. if it is the second, i rather shelf Sale, instead of running him out there to get hurt, or limit him games and innings. should the sox chance sale getting hurt?? Pitch Sale. Maybe you give him an outing off later this season, esp. if he gets tired and they're out of it fully, but pitch him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 09:38 PM) If they wait til Tuesday for Sale, it will feel like a "really, we'd rather not maintain a charade of competing, and would like to do some selling" kind of move. I agree. Can any person convince me why it is a good idea to pitch Danks in Game Two of that DH? What you do is go with Shark and Sale and see if just maybe you can stick it up the Royals' backsides and win the DH. Now you are guaranteeing a loss in Game Two and one of their lefties just might connect off Shark. You are right, though. It ultimately is a charade, we don't have the team this year. I did think we might want to go with our top guns one final series to see if we can knock off the Royals and maybe contend for a WC. This is such a dumb move, I do question the common sense of Coop/Robin. And this is coming from a Danks lover like me. I truly love the guy. Edited July 13, 2015 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 You guys are getting all worked up over what is 99% sure to be absolutely nothing. I could almost actually argue that we need Sale to pitch the ASG so that when we win the Pennant we have home field advantage in the WS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 05:37 PM) I agree. Can any person convince me why it is a good idea to pitch Danks in Game Two of that DH? What you do is go with Shark and Sale and see if just maybe you can stick it up the Royals' backsides and win the DH. Now you are guaranteeing a loss in Game Two and one of their lefties just might connect off Shark. You are right, though. It ultimately is a charade, we don't have the team this year. I did think we might want to go with our top guns one final series to see if we can knock off the Royals and maybe contend for a WC. This is such a dumb move, I do question the common sense of Coop/Robin. And this is coming from a Danks lover like me. I truly love the guy. Danks has to pitch at some point though. Who cares if it's Friday night? They want to give Sale extra rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 05:37 PM) I agree. Can any person convince me why it is a good idea to pitch Danks in Game Two of that DH? What you do is go with Shark and Sale and see if just maybe you can stick it up the Royals' backsides and win the DH. Now you are guaranteeing a loss in Game Two and one of their lefties just might connect off Shark. You are right, though. It ultimately is a charade, we don't have the team this year. I did think we might want to go with our top guns one final series to see if we can knock off the Royals and maybe contend for a WC. This is such a dumb move, I do question the common sense of Coop/Robin. And this is coming from a Danks lover like me. I truly love the guy. Danks will need to pitch one of the games in the series. Why does it matter which one ? Sale will have pitched in the AS game. Give him an extra day or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 "If Sale pitches, Ventura said he might consider moving Sale to the following series against the St. Louis Cardinals." Key words right there. Nothing to panick about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 01:17 AM) Danks has to pitch at some point though. Who cares if it's Friday night? They want to give Sale extra rest. I thought it was a four game series. I want Sale, Shark, Q and Rodon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 02:06 AM) I thought it was a four game series. I want Sale, Shark, Q and Rodon. DH Friday. Putting Sale and Shark on the same day means one would lose a days rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 espn.com lists Samardzija/Danks for Friday, Quintana for Saturday and TBA for Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 08:38 AM) espn.com lists Samardzija/Danks for Friday, Quintana for Saturday and TBA for Sunday. If I were Robin, I'd let Erik Johnson start after Shark on Friday and give Sale the ball on Sunday. I just don't see how Robin could just give one of these games away by putting in Danks. These are "must win" games, so a Danks should not pitch in this series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Rodon is going to be the #5 out of the break. He's got a nasty blister and they're going to give him until Monday to let it heal. Sale will pitch on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) If I were Robin, I'd let Erik Johnson start after Shark on Friday and give Sale the ball on Sunday. I just don't see how Robin could just give one of these games away by putting in Danks. These are "must win" games, so a Danks should not pitch in this series. Not a bad idea. Fri: Shark / EJ (26th man) Sat: Q Sun: Sale Tue: Danks Wed: Rodon (as much rest as possible for blister) Edited July 14, 2015 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 09:56 AM) If I were Robin, I'd let Erik Johnson start after Shark on Friday and give Sale the ball on Sunday. I just don't see how Robin could just give one of these games away by putting in Danks. These are "must win" games, so a Danks should not pitch in this series. Sale will have 7 days rest if he pitches Sunday. He didn't pitch in ST. Why would they?: a. choose to do such an enormous favor to Ned and the Royals b. choose now, when there's an outside chance of getting back into semi-contention over the next few weeks, to give him the periodic "extra rest", can't that wait a couple weeks? UNLESS, they really don't want to face the conundrum and potential white flag-esque bad pub that would undoubtedly happen if they were to reach .500, 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 back for the second WC, and still sold. Similarly, if they choose now to be extra-cautious with Abreu, I'll be suspicious. Never want to believe that a single game of 162 means too much, but it's just possible that Sunday's 2 hit anemia was the final nail in the org's consideration of competing. And maybe Sale will start Sunday - should be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 The Sox have the 20th off which could help alot. After the DH on the 17th DFA Boni and make Danks the long man in the pen. If the Sox really want to make a second half run then do what's best for the team and get Danks out of the rotation. 17th- Samardzija/ EJ for DH 18th- Q 19th- Sale 20th- off 21st- Rodon 22nd- Samardzija 23rd- Johnson 24th- Q 25th- Sale 26th- Rodon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 10:29 AM) The Sox have the 20th off which could help alot. After the DH on the 17th DFA Boni and make Danks the long man in the pen. If the Sox really want to make a second half run then do what's best for the team and get Danks out of the rotation. 17th- Samardzija/ EJ for DH 18th- Q 19th- Sale 20th- off 21st- Rodon 22nd- Samardzija 23rd- Johnson 24th- Q 25th- Sale 26th- Rodon Agreed. Does 7-3 make them buyers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) If I were Robin, I'd let Erik Johnson start after Shark on Friday and give Sale the ball on Sunday. I just don't see how Robin could just give one of these games away by putting in Danks. These are "must win" games, so a Danks should not pitch in this series. Danks has a pretty good track record vs. KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 11:38 AM) Agreed. Does 7-3 make them buyers? 48-48 with 66 to play. No way Shark is traded. I could see Hahn trying to acquire a couple cheap bats if it doesn't cost much if the Sox are at .500 anytime before the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 11:38 AM) Agreed. Does 7-3 make them buyers? That's a good question. With the offense needing so many upgrades I doubt the Sox have the farm to pull it off. But I admit I'm just a fan so who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Montas and Adams for Cruz. Get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) Montas and Adams for Cruz. Get it done. Yikes. That'd be an overpay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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