LDF Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 05:53 PM) Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 55s55 seconds ago The #Astros also had Jeff Samardzija on their radar, but couldn't afford to wait for #WhiteSox to decide on a course of action. https://twitter.com/jcrasnick Well there's some good news(major sarcasm) CRAP!!!!! well, hou still needs a 2nd pitcher.... or was that Tor who needed 2 sp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 12:54 PM) Yeah, in A ball. Top 10 MLB catching prospects Jan 2008 Wieters Clement Towles Soto Conger Bryan Anderson Montero Mesoraco Cervelli Teagarden Not a lot of potential HOFers there. 7 of those 10 are in the majors right now, that's not bad for a lottery ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Can we just trade Shark to LAD for Schebler and another piece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Can we package Rick Hahn in with wherever Shark ends up going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 12:53 PM) Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 55s55 seconds ago The #Astros also had Jeff Samardzija on their radar, but couldn't afford to wait for #WhiteSox to decide on a course of action. https://twitter.com/jcrasnick Well there's some good news(major sarcasm) Ugh, this has KW all this thinking we can be in contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 12:53 PM) Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 55s55 seconds ago The #Astros also had Jeff Samardzija on their radar, but couldn't afford to wait for #WhiteSox to decide on a course of action. https://twitter.com/jcrasnick Well there's some good news(major sarcasm) Honestly embarrassed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 12:53 PM) Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 55s55 seconds ago The #Astros also had Jeff Samardzija on their radar, but couldn't afford to wait for #WhiteSox to decide on a course of action. https://twitter.com/jcrasnick Well there's some good news(major sarcasm) It will be interesting to see what the Sox get for Shark vs. the Kazmir return. Personally, I hope they get a more advanced prospect. Do you really want the Sox to acquire a guy who needs to go through their system for a few years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 12:58 PM) It will be interesting to see what the Sox get for Shark vs. the Kazmir return. Personally, I hope they get a more advanced prospect. Do you really want the Sox to acquire a guy who needs to go through their system for a few years? If it's a pitcher, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 01:58 PM) It will be interesting to see what the Sox get for Shark vs. the Kazmir return. Personally, I hope they get a more advanced prospect. Do you really want the Sox to acquire a guy who needs to go through their system for a few years? Well I wouldn't be mad if it was a guy 2-3 years away but was talented, but that's because I'm willing to call this a rebuilding team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Rick Yawn asleep at the wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 10:57 AM) Honestly embarrassed Yeah, that is unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 12:56 PM) 7 of those 10 are in the majors right now, that's not bad for a lottery ticket And so is Flowers, but supposedly he is the worst baseball player who ever lived. And these were the top 10 in the league. You can sign guys like Soto for around minimum every year. If you are trading Samardjiza, I think you are aiming a little higher than that. Maybe in 5 or 6 years Nottingham is, but the odds are stacked against him and almost every minor league catcher of being anything but an extremely mediocre major league player. As I stated, Flowers was a better prospect than this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Lev Facher @levfacher 2m2 minutes ago Beane: A's needed to be realistic about where they were in the standings. https://twitter.com/levfacher Say what you want about Billy but atleast he isnt blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I think the outrage over Cranick's tweet is silly. If the Astros were offering something the White Sox wanted, I am sure a deal would have been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 06:03 PM) And so is Flowers, but supposedly he is the worst baseball player who ever lived. And these were the top 10 in the league. You can sign guys like Soto for around minimum every year. If you are trading Samardjiza, I think you are aiming a little higher than that. Maybe in 5 or 6 years Nottingham is, but the odds are stacked against him and almost every minor league catcher of being anything but an extremely mediocre major league player. As I stated, Flowers was a better prospect than this guy. i can see your point. but i see this yr selling by the sox as not to win in every trade, but to fix the hole that is sinking this ship who has many holes. fix it, and then concentrate on continue to improve with minor altercation thru the draft. this is a system that has long been overlooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 11:05 AM) I think the outrage over Cranick's tweet is silly. If the Astros were offering something the White Sox wanted, I am sure a deal would have been done. Yeah. The problem is the White Sox probably wanted someone to help them win this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 06:05 PM) Lev Facher @levfacher 2m2 minutes ago Beane: A's needed to be realistic about where they were in the standings. https://twitter.com/levfacher Say what you want about Billy but atleast he isnt blind. and he has a quick trigger finger in doing trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 06:07 PM) Yeah. The problem is the White Sox probably wanted someone to help them win this year. and now..... that sounds like kw and the owners. really not having a grasp on reality. Edited July 23, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Blue jays/royals all-in on Cueto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 12:57 PM) Honestly embarrassed You're embarrassed the Sox didn't get Nottingham for Samardzija? Have you ever even heard of Nottingham until this trade was announced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 06:08 PM) Blue jays/royals all-in on Cueto. and the domino's starts to fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Mike Ferrin @MikeFerrinSXM 5m5 minutes ago If Nottingham & Mengden reach their ceiling: Astros gave up everyday C & 4/5 starter for 2 mos. of Mid-rotation starter. Seller’s market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 02:09 PM) You're embarrassed the Sox didn't get Nottingham for Samardzija? Have you ever even heard of Nottingham until this trade was announced? He's replying to the phrase "The White Sox haven't decided on a course of action" there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 06:11 PM) Mike Ferrin @MikeFerrinSXM 5m5 minutes ago If Nottingham & Mengden reach their ceiling: Astros gave up everyday C & 4/5 starter for 2 mos. of Mid-rotation starter. Seller’s market. and that is a really nice stopgap to help an org in rebuilding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 The Astros are without a doubt the most sabermetrical team in baseball. So if you're a saber guy, and knowing how thin catching is league-wide, and they trade him for a rental, wouldn't it make you think they aren't very high on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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