Brian Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 After a deal fell apart because of a physical last night, seems KC is still getting Cueto per Rosenthal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) Sean Manaea was the pitcher there was a medical clearance concern about....fwiw. Great news for Royals' fans. They're 10th in the majors in attendance, Top 3 in tv ratings for their regional market, just had their 16th sellout of the season and now this. They absolutely needed an ace to give them a shot in the playoffs, their offense hasn't been nearly as dynamic as the first couple of months of the season, and that bullpen has taken a pounding with their IP totals. With Cueto, you can add Duffy and theoretically Ventura falls in line and doesn't feel so much pressure to be the ace. Blanton, Chris Young, Guthrie...not guys you want starting in the post-season, although they did give starts to Guthrie and the now injured Vargas. Medlen's been pitching out of the bullpen and still something of a wild card coming off TJ. Edited July 26, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Rental or are they going to sign him in the offseason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 That's good for us and Shark trade. TOR will be coming for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Sources: Brandon Finnegan's name has been in talks with Reds. Unclear if he's in final deal, which @Ken_Rosenthal says is done. https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/625332413514805248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 04:49 PM) That's good for us and Shark trade. TOR will be coming for him Yep no way was Samardzija ever going to KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 10:49 AM) That's good for us and Shark trade. TOR will be coming for him Yes it is. Toronto, LAD and possibly Houston bidding on Samardzija can only help the Sox return on a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Be nice for the Sox if Hamels goes to Texas soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 10:59 AM) Be nice for the Sox if Hamels goes to Texas soon And if price does become available to the cubs that would leave dodgers, jays, giants, Yankees still needing pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Not with all the bad blood between the two....it would be like us acquiring Ventura. Another great question. I'd say this: Darvish, Holland, Gallardo, Gonzalez and Perez. Wouldn't have included Gallardo a month ago. But he was great in June. Also gives a young rotation the kind of veteran savvy that Colby Lewis has always supplied. I realize this squeezes out Nick Martinez and leaves out Colby and Matt Harrison. That's what competition is all about. Also, someone's always going to get hurt. dallas.com The Rangers have a wealth of pitching if they bring Hamels on board. Darvish/Hamels (two #1's) Derek Holland Yovani Gallardo Chi Chi Gonzalez Martin Perez, Colby Lewis, Nick Martinez and Matt Harrison would all be on the outside looking in...they could trade some of those guys along with Leonys Martin/Profar/Odor and really be a contender. That would leave Gallo, Hamilton, Choo and DeShields as the four outfielders, Beltre back at 3B, Fielder for DH, Moreland at 1B, Odor and Profar fighting it out for 2B (the other could be packaged in a trade)....if Andrus woke up and played at All-Star level again, or Choo....watch out. Need to clean up the bullpen (and they've got a long list of arms there now) and catcher's spot and they'll be in good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 09:59 AM) Yes it is. Toronto, LAD and possibly Houston bidding on Samardzija can only help the Sox return on a trade. Houston's going to wait until the last second and see if the sticker prices come down or another veteran surprisingly becomes available, but for them to trade a top 3-5 minor league right now would be pretty shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 11:03 AM) Not with all the bad blood between the two....it would be like us acquiring Ventura. Another great question. I'd say this: Darvish, Holland, Gallardo, Gonzalez and Perez. Wouldn't have included Gallardo a month ago. But he was great in June. Also gives a young rotation the kind of veteran savvy that Colby Lewis has always supplied. I realize this squeezes out Nick Martinez and leaves out Colby and Matt Harrison. That's what competition is all about. Also, someone's always going to get hurt. dallas.com The Rangers have a wealth of pitching if they bring Hamels on board. Darvish/Hamels (two #1's) Derek Holland Yovani Gallardo Chi Chi Gonzalez Martin Perez, Colby Lewis, Nick Martinez and Matt Harrison would all be on the outside looking in...they could trade some of those guys along with Leonys Martin/Profar/Odor and really be a contender. That would leave Gallo, Hamilton, Choo and DeShields as the four outfielders, Beltre back at 3B, Fielder for DH, Moreland at 1B, Odor and Profar fighting it out for 2B (the other could be packaged in a trade)....if Andrus woke up and played at All-Star level again, or Choo....watch out. Need to clean up the bullpen (and they've got a long list of arms there now) and catcher's spot and they'll be in good shape. Actually the Rangers were/are trying to trade gallardo plus he's a free agent after this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 10:09 AM) Actually the Rangers were/are trying to trade gallardo plus he's a free agent after this year There's lots of speculation both ways. Some insiders are saying he's gone but they will try to bring him back (like Jason Hammel/Cubs), others that they want to hold onto him for the rest of the season and then sign him in the offseason, so anything's possible. Guess it just depends on what's being offered. As far as the Cueto deal goes, along with Manaea, the other injured player being speculated about was former 1st rounder Bubba Starling, who got hurt running into the OF wall about a week ago with AA NW Arkansas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 05:05 PM) Houston's going to wait until the last second and see if the sticker prices come down or another veteran surprisingly becomes available, but for them to trade a top 3-5 minor league right now would be pretty shocking. i agree..... with cueto going to al west, they are now forcing other team to rethink their positioning and maybe make a bigger effort to more trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 10:31 AM) i agree..... with cueto going to al west, they are now forcing other team to rethink their positioning and maybe make a bigger effort to more trading. Except it's Hamels who is going to the AL West and Cueto to the AL Central (KC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Sounds like Finnegan is part of the haul CIN got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 11:05 AM) Houston's going to wait until the last second and see if the sticker prices come down or another veteran surprisingly becomes available, but for them to trade a top 3-5 minor league right now would be pretty shocking. I'm not so sure about Houston waiting. If Houston waits too long they will lose another start from the pitcher they trade for plus Houston already showed they aren't waiting around when they traded for Kazmir. Luhnow's comments after the trade back that up. Then there's the tie for first place they are in with the Angels which makes them even more eager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 04:45 PM) Except it's Hamels who is going to the AL West and Cueto to the AL Central (KC). oops, but the point is, this should shock the other teams into making moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 this deal is not done yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) Deal is done just making sure medicals are legit after last night Edited July 26, 2015 by Bigsoxhurt35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 10:48 AM) Rental or are they going to sign him in the offseason? Strictly a rental. No chance they can sign him. Cueto will get an even bigger deal now with no QO attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 11:46 AM) Sounds like Finnegan is part of the haul CIN got. Jon Heyman thinks it's LHP Brandon Finnegan and LHP John Lamb. That's a good haul for Cincinnati for a rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Jeffrey Flanagan @FlannyMLB 2m2 minutes ago It's official. Johnny Cueto and cash for John Lamb, Brandon Finnegan and Cody Reed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 01:58 PM) Jeffrey Flanagan @FlannyMLB 2m2 minutes ago It's official. Johnny Cueto and cash for John Lamb, Brandon Finnegan and Cody Reed. That is a great haul for Cincinnati. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Sox fans should be happy with that haul for Cueto, as hopefully it raises the price tag for Samardzija. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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