southsider2k5 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 George Ofman 45 mins · Twitter · Bluejays interested in either Samardzija or Quintana. Sox stand pat...for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 George Ofman 45 mins · Twitter · Bluejays interested in either Samardzija or Quintana. Sox stand pat...for now. I'd tell the Jays that the package for Quintana starts with Bautista and that ought to end the call rather quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Do the Blue Jays even have anything that gets to Quintana level remaining? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:14 PM) George Ofman 45 mins · Twitter · Bluejays interested in either Samardzija or Quintana. Sox stand pat...for now. they don't have what it takes for Quintana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 If I'm moving Q, it's for Puig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:15 PM) I'd tell the Jays that the package for Quintana starts with Bautista and that ought to end the call rather quickly. I would say Donaldson, but same idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Ya, start with Donaldson then maybe I forgot about him. Doubt they'd wana move him considering they're going for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I'd want to walk away with Stroman as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 They don't have anywhere near the horses to get Quintana (sans trading Donaldson). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Q and Shark for Donaldson and Pentecost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 If the Sox were to trade both Q and Samardzija to the Jays, talks start with Norris and Stroman or piss off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 10:20 AM) Q and Shark for Donaldson and Pentecost I would need one of their pitchers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 10:28 AM) Q for Norris, Sanchez and Alford. Im so frightened to move Q...if you bungle the Shark deal, fine...not the end of the world...if you bungle a Q deal...you've just traded away one of your most valuable assets in the midst of a race you have a reasonable chance of winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:28 PM) Q for Norris, Sanchez and Alford. Throw in Pentecost, and you have a deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:30 PM) Im so frightened to move Q...if you bungle the Shark deal, fine...not the end of the world...if you bungle a Q deal...you've just traded away one of your most valuable assets in the midst of a race you have a reasonable chance of winning. Yes. We need bats for days to trade Quintana. Jays higher end prospects are SP (and one was just traded). They don't match up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 This whole thread has reminded me how little the A's got for Donaldson in that trade. Anywho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 10:34 AM) Let's try to realistic here guys. Don't overvalue your team's players. Donaldson >>>> Quintana. They're not going to move Donaldson anyways. Problem is, they don't really have a bat that we're going to move Q for...everyone else is too old or too young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:34 PM) Let's try to realistic here guys. Don't overvalue your team's players. Donaldson >>>> Quintana. And let's not hero worship either. He'll also be 30 this year about to get really expensive. Rather get improvements at multiple positions for Q. Re Quintana, Hamels WAR since 2013 = 11.4; Quintana = 11.1. Quintana is younger, cheaper and signed til 2020. Be very careful about trading him. Edited July 28, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I don't think the Blue Jays have the ammo for Q after the Tulo deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:49 PM) I don't think the Blue Jays have the ammo for Q after the Tulo deal Even before, they probably didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I think Norris & either Pompey or Pentecost and a smaller prospect for Quintana would be a very good return. Still not keen on the idea of moving a top 20 pitcher, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:49 PM) I don't think the Blue Jays have the ammo for Q after the Tulo deal Not unless they want to give up Donaldson. Throw in Alexei, move Saladino to SS. Crazy talk for sure, but there has to be some reason they traded for Tulo. They must be planning on giving up a bat here soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 11:49 AM) I don't think the Blue Jays have the ammo for Q after the Tulo deal They absolutely do. It's just a matter of them most likely not wanting to gut the farm system. Norris, Sanchez, Pompey, Pentecost, Reid-Foley, Alford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:58 PM) I think Norris & either Pompey or Pentecost and a smaller prospect for Quintana would be a very good return. Still not keen on the idea of moving a top 20 pitcher, though. Gahhhh. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) The only reason to trade Q is for an established hitter. Since he is a cheap stud pitcher, the Sox don't need that. They don't need prospects where you hope one turns into something close to Q. If they trade him, they need to get back someone who hits in the major leagues, and will for a while. Otherwise, it's just trading to trade, and you will almost certainly become worse off. Edited July 28, 2015 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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