OmarComing25 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 02:08 PM) Quintana Anderson Montas and something else for Longo and pitching prospect. Boom Profit! In the Fangraphs trade value column they had Quintana at #41 and Longoria just outside the top 50. The price you're paying is steep. Edited July 29, 2015 by OmarComing25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 02:26 PM) Not really. LaRoche is a whipping boy, but he'll hit again. Wasn't too long ago Melky's contract was an albatross. I was told by one, he wouldn't put up a 4 WAR total from his low point for the balance of the contract. He is already 25% there. He has eked his way back to a positive WAR. LaRoche will hit again. Any grief LaRoche receives is well deserved. He's been awful. I hope he hits again, and, at some point, he probably will but if I could dump him for anything, I would. He's shown too many Dunn-esque qualities to wait around and hope he turns it around. I do like that RV isn't just throwing him out there in the middle of the order everyday like he did with Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:57 PM) Wonder what it would take to get tampa to listen on Longoria. Davidson, Montas, Danish, and Anderson for Longoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 02:19 PM) Davidson, Montas, Danish, and Anderson for Longoria I would do that without thinking twice, which probably mean it's not enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 03:19 PM) Davidson, Montas, Danish, and Anderson for Longoria Not enough. Would you give up Quintana for that package if another team had those guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 02:23 PM) Not enough. Would you give up Quintana for that package if another team had those guys? Quintana is more valuable than Longoria. Younger, cheaper and hitting the prime of his career. Longoria is going on 30. So, it's irrelevant in comparing the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) Davidson, Montas, Danish, and Anderson for Longoria that would be a no-brainer. I think you'd need to throw in something more promising than Danish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 12:29 PM) that would be a no-brainer. I think you'd need to throw in something more promising than Danish. I would absolutely do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 03:19 PM) Davidson, Montas, Danish, and Anderson for Longoria I'd keep Anderson if at all possible. I think he's going be a very good player. Maybe get them to take Micah instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) I'd keep Anderson if at all possible. I think he's going be a very good player. Maybe get them to take Micah instead. Not happening if you want Longoria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) Davidson, Montas, Danish, and Anderson for Longoria Swap Davidson with Micah and Danish with Adams and they would listen IMO. Gotta be a system gutter for Longo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySox Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 03:17 PM) Swap Davidson with Micah and Danish with Adams and they would listen IMO. Gotta be a system gutter for Longo. I would do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (RaySox @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) I would do that I don't think the Rays would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoSox2k2 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 03:19 PM) I don't think the Rays would. maybe this guy knew the Sox were "buyers" because they have called on some Tigers players. Cespedes would be awesome for the 2nd half.. but could he play RF? Melky already locked into left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I'd love to get Cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 02:19 PM) Davidson, Montas, Danish, and Anderson for Longoria Longoria having sub-par season. There are two recent articles in FL papers about him: "What's wrong with Longoria" He says he doesn't know but it feels like he has never played before. Unquote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 What's the latest on Adam Lind trade talks around the league? What do you think you have to give up for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 04:06 PM) What's the latest on Adam Lind trade talks around the league? What do you think you have to give up for him? I want him if we can somehow dump LaRoche! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 04:08 PM) I want him if we can somehow dump LaRoche! That's my hope as well. Hoping they might bite the bullet on him. Have a feeling they might give him August to see if he can get hot then if he doesn't, try and work the waiver wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:58 PM) Longoria having sub-par season. There are two recent articles in FL papers about him: "What's wrong with Longoria" He says he doesn't know but it feels like he has never played before. Unquote. Makes it even better, since the price if he was tearing it up would be impossibly high. He's signed until 2022 and could hold down 3rd for the next 5 years and slide into a DH role or be moved. It would be too good to be true, honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 02:05 PM) Rodon? Not sure if Fulmer + Anderson + Montas does it. Oh come on. Longoria's value is way, way down. Elite? Not anymore. Not even in Cameron's top 50 (Quintana is, what, #30?) This kind of stuff is beyond belief. Does anyone even look at his numbers? Not only is he way down this season, he was way down last season. Edited July 29, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 06:13 PM) Oh come on. Longoria's value is way, way down. Elite? Not anymore. Not even in Cameron's top 50 (Quintana is, what, #30?) This kind of stuff is beyond belief. Does anyone even look at his numbers? Not only is he way down this season, he was way down last season. But you need the Rays to actually be motivated to move him for a reduced price. Do you see them doing that? I sure don't. Jose Abreu is way down from last season but if you want to trade for Jose Abreu, the White Sox would demand the kind of price you'd pay for a 40 HR guy right now because that's who he might be next year again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Kaplan is interviewing Dan O'Dowd from MLB Network and he says the Sox need a RH bullpen arm. Please. Edited July 29, 2015 by SoxPride18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 05:17 PM) But you need the Rays to actually be motivated to move him for a reduced price. Do you see them doing that? I sure don't. Jose Abreu is way down from last season but if you want to trade for Jose Abreu, the White Sox would demand the kind of price you'd pay for a 40 HR guy right now because that's who he might be next year again. So you don't trade for him. You find value. Even if Longoria was Longoria, I wouldn't understand the hero worship. You need 5 starters, 5 members of the bullpen and 8 position players plus DH. The Sox are, what, a .500 team? So what would a vintage Longoria do...turn us into WS contenders? Of course not. He'd add maybe 2 or 3 wins through the end of the season. You trade all of the top tier prospects for that? (it's not like he was ever a Trout or Harper). It doesn't make any sense to want to go "all in" on these players. If you want one, you draft him or you trade for him before he reaches hero status. Build the team. Look at the Pirates - pick up the C for a middle reliever; get their SS/3B cheap on the international market. They have 1 great player that they drafted. They made savvy moves. Sox have made a couple too, like Abreu and Quintana (didn't draft well until recently though, and I still suspect the Sox drafts are 2nd division in quality). Edited July 29, 2015 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 04:42 PM) Kaplan is interviewing Dan O'Dowd from MLB Network and he says the Sox need a RH bullpen arm. Please. Lol what an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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