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I mean, this is all make-believe world. But hypothetically speaking, would you entertain buying low on Starlin Castro and slotting him over to 3B?

Not the best defensively in the field, or very good. Also declining numbers offensively, however maybe a change of scenery? I mean, he's only 25 -- put up some real slick numbers at age 20-24. Maybe buy on a down year. Not sure what it'd take to get him. His contract is 8.10.11.12 and then 16mm option.

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QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 02:10 PM)
I mean, this is all make-believe world. But hypothetically speaking, would you entertain buying low on Starlin Castro and slotting him over to 3B?

Not the best defensively in the field, or very good. Also declining numbers offensively, however maybe a change of scenery? I mean, he's only 25 -- put up some real slick numbers at age 20-24. Maybe buy on a down year. Not sure what it'd take to get him. His contract is 8.10.11.12 and then 16mm option.

Uh......................no.

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QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 02:10 PM)
I mean, this is all make-believe world. But hypothetically speaking, would you entertain buying low on Starlin Castro and slotting him over to 3B?

Not the best defensively in the field, or very good. Also declining numbers offensively, however maybe a change of scenery? I mean, he's only 25 -- put up some real slick numbers at age 20-24. Maybe buy on a down year. Not sure what it'd take to get him. His contract is 8.10.11.12 and then 16mm option.

 

He's basically a salary dump at this point considering how awful he has been. If it prevents us from spending money elsewhere (almost assuredly so) I will pass.

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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 02:21 PM)
I suggested this yesterday. It's not the worst idea. Levine mentions the rest of mlb see him a 3B who can bulk up and be a slugger. I agree there's that chance but cubs would have to give you considerable salary and we give up nothing in terms of prospects for it to happen.

I think it was a case of a talented guy getting paid too much too early. He has had 3 or 4 managers. It doesn't seem like anyone is getting through. Maybe someday he wakes up, probably close to the expiration of his contract, but he's not worth the trouble because even in your scenario, it's not worth it to the Cubs to pay him a lot of money to play somewhere else and get nothing in return. They just have to hope he somehow regains what he has lost.

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When did Starlin become Public Enemy #1??

 

It's a real buy low candidate. Maybe the Cubs toss in some money, maybe not. But I don't think it's that crazy. Again, I haven't watched a ton of Cubs games, so I could be wrong. But, sure he's bad at SS, but 3rd base should be a little easier to handle.

 

Look at his stats.

 

Age 20: .300BA, .347OBP, 3HR, 41RBI 71SO

 

Age 21: .307BA, .341OBP, 10HR, 66RBI 96SO

 

Age 22: .283BA, .323OBP, 14HR, 78RBI 100SO

 

Age 23: .245BA, .284OBP, 10HR, 44RBI 129SO

 

Age 24: .292BA, .339OBP, 14HR, 65RBI 100SO

 

 

I feel like some are pretty dismissive right of the bat. Buying low on a guy, who's salary is under or about $10mm is not awful in this day and age. Look at what some people are getting out there. Yes there is a decline over time, however this is not like an Adam LaRoche drop off because of age. He's 25. Maybe a change of scenery could change things. Just a thought. Not saying I'm a proponent. But -- sorry, its not like Saladino is our answer. And look at the trash we've marched out to 3b over the last decade.

 

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QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 02:27 PM)
When did Starlin become Public Enemy #1??

 

It's a real buy low candidate. Maybe the Cubs toss in some money, maybe not. But I don't think it's that crazy. Again, I haven't watched a ton of Cubs games, so I could be wrong. But, sure he's bad at SS, but 3rd base should be a little easier to handle.

 

Look at his stats.

 

Age 20: .300BA, .347OBP, 3HR, 41RBI 71SO

 

Age 21: .307BA, .341OBP, 10HR, 66RBI 96SO

 

Age 22: .283BA, .323OBP, 14HR, 78RBI 100SO

 

Age 23: .245BA, .284OBP, 10HR, 44RBI 129SO

 

Age 24: .292BA, .339OBP, 14HR, 65RBI 100SO

 

 

I feel like some are pretty dismissive right of the bat. Buying low on a guy, who's salary is under or about $10mm is not awful in this day and age. Look at what some people are getting out there. Yes there is a decline over time, however this is not like an Adam LaRoche drop off because of age. He's 25. Maybe a change of scenery could change things. Just a thought. Not saying I'm a proponent. But -- sorry, its not like Saladino is our answer. And look at the trash we've marched out to 3b over the last decade.

You conveniently left out his age 25 season.

Moving from SS to 3B doesn't come with some guarantee that your defense will improve.

His contract f***ing sucks.

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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 02:29 PM)
You conveniently left out his age 25 season.

Moving from SS to 3B doesn't come with some guarantee that your defense will improve.

His contract f***ing sucks.

 

I leave out 25, which is this year, because its not finished. It would be like making an argument against Melky that he was TOAST, OLD!! WASHED UP!! 1 month ago... that argument has changed by 60 batting points in less than a month. His numbers this year aren't that great though.

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QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 02:27 PM)
When did Starlin become Public Enemy #1??

 

It's a real buy low candidate. Maybe the Cubs toss in some money, maybe not. But I don't think it's that crazy. Again, I haven't watched a ton of Cubs games, so I could be wrong. But, sure he's bad at SS, but 3rd base should be a little easier to handle.

 

Look at his stats.

 

Age 20: .300BA, .347OBP, 3HR, 41RBI 71SO

 

Age 21: .307BA, .341OBP, 10HR, 66RBI 96SO

 

Age 22: .283BA, .323OBP, 14HR, 78RBI 100SO

 

Age 23: .245BA, .284OBP, 10HR, 44RBI 129SO

 

Age 24: .292BA, .339OBP, 14HR, 65RBI 100SO

 

 

I feel like some are pretty dismissive right of the bat. Buying low on a guy, who's salary is under or about $10mm is not awful in this day and age. Look at what some people are getting out there. Yes there is a decline over time, however this is not like an Adam LaRoche drop off because of age. He's 25. Maybe a change of scenery could change things. Just a thought. Not saying I'm a proponent. But -- sorry, its not like Saladino is our answer. And look at the trash we've marched out to 3b over the last decade.

I did read he did have more hits before the age of 25 than Pete Rose. The thing is, the guy is a head case. Lackadaisical plays, dumb plays, poor performance...I just think he's a guy that will always thinking he should be better than he is.

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Absolutely not!

 

At the moment I would take Saladino, Sanchez and Ramirez over Castro which leaves Castro with no place on the White Sox.

 

I would trade ( contract for contracts) Castro for Danks/LaRoche. The cubs would not, so I have nothing to worry about as far as Castro playing in a Sox uniform.

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Based purely on us getting him as a true buy-low, then yes. However, it doesn't appear that the Cubs are going to sell him as a buy-low. I.e. give him up plus take on a bad contract (or send cash) for another team to take Castro off their hands.

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