NorthSideSox72 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 20, 2015 -> 10:04 AM) Doesn't seem like AFL is going very well for anyone. Pitchers are doing well. Hitters not as much, though Delmonico has shown some pop. It's also pretty early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 20, 2015 -> 04:14 PM) Pitchers are doing well. Hitters not as much, though Delmonico has shown some pop. It's also pretty early. Engel went 2-3 yesterday and is hitting .300 with a couple walks and SBs. Wendelken threw a scoreless inning as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 QUOTE (MnSoxFan @ Oct 20, 2015 -> 04:29 PM) Engel went 2-3 yesterday and is hitting .300 with a couple walks and SBs. Wendelken threw a scoreless inning as well. Up to .357/.500/.429 after yesterdays performance. Man would that be a huge coup if he could produce a 700+ OPS with his defense and speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 QUOTE (MnSoxFan @ Oct 20, 2015 -> 04:29 PM) Engel went 2-3 yesterday and is hitting .300 with a couple walks and SBs. Wendelken threw a scoreless inning as well. Big fan of Wendelken out of the pen. Glad he's had 2 solid outings in a row after his hiccup in game 1. Think he can be a good 7th-8th inning guy. QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 23, 2015 -> 06:55 AM) Up to .357/.500/.429 after yesterdays performance. Man would that be a huge coup if he could produce a 700+ OPS with his defense and speed. If he can do well in AA, could be trade bait to use for an impact bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 23, 2015 -> 06:55 AM) Up to .357/.500/.429 after yesterdays performance. Man would that be a huge coup if he could produce a 700+ OPS with his defense and speed. Too bad Kenny isn't running a different team. We could totally trade him Engel for an impact player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsiskel Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 23, 2015 -> 06:55 AM) Up to .357/.500/.429 after yesterdays performance. Man would that be a huge coup if he could produce a 700+ OPS with his defense and speed. Next year is crucial for him. Not very confident about his hit tool developing, but I like high-ceiling, up-the-middle guys with good makeup. Will be quite the test for him at AA, assuming he starts there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsiskel Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 23, 2015 -> 08:14 PM) Did you hear he has good makeup? Observed it, and yeah from talking with him and seeing how he interacts with coaches (asking persistent questions) and teammates, I think it's fair to say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Our minors are looking stacked. I'm pumped. We can trade for anybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I didn't take the opportunity to see two games this week. 6 miles away from the Ranch and I didn't go today. Would anyone else waste an opportunity like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 23, 2015 -> 08:14 PM) Did you hear he has good makeup? I'll second Will, having spoken to Adam, talked to his coaches, and helped him write a guest article for FS last year (he wrote about playing Aussie ball). Also, they wouldn't have sent him to Australia to represent the team like that if he didn't have good makeup. QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 24, 2015 -> 08:08 PM) Our minors are looking stacked. I'm pumped. We can trade for anybody Well that is a bit of an overstatement. I think the lower levels are looking pretty darn good, but the upper levels (AA, AAA) are still not great and there is a lack of elite talent. System is improving, but mostly in quantity of "could be interesting" guys as opposed to a few "elite" guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 25, 2015 -> 06:32 PM) I'll second Will, having spoken to Adam, talked to his coaches, and helped him write a guest article for FS last year (he wrote about playing Aussie ball). Also, they wouldn't have sent him to Australia to represent the team like that if he didn't have good makeup. Well that is a bit of an overstatement. I think the lower levels are looking pretty darn good, but the upper levels (AA, AAA) are still not great and there is a lack of elite talent. System is improving, but mostly in quantity of "could be interesting" guys as opposed to a few "elite" guys. Yea, that's the problem. The system has a lot of guys who have the ceiling of an average major league player, but lack impact players. We have one guy who you can legitimately say has a chance to be an all-star position player (Anderson) and while his ceiling is certainly very high, he is also super risky. Pitching wise, we have solid arms (like usual). I would say in the pitching department, we are easily a top-10 system. Hitting wise, we are bottom 10, maybe bottom 5. Edited October 26, 2015 by maggsmaggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 A couple posts have discussed the org seeing the issue as talent acquisition not development. But to me, I have no confidence that the players with plus power in our system can ever be good enough at contact to be starters. And it just seems to keep happening. Really would love if the Zs in arizona can keep it up, but I just feel like its a fat chance (more so than with any prospect being a fat chance) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 26, 2015 -> 11:27 AM) A couple posts have discussed the org seeing the issue as talent acquisition not development. But to me, I have no confidence that the players with plus power in our system can ever be good enough at contact to be starters. And it just seems to keep happening. Really would love if the Zs in arizona can keep it up, but I just feel like its a fat chance (more so than with any prospect being a fat chance) I think it is totally a talent acquisition issue. The Sox FO is enamored of the idea of power (especially RH power) and have prioritized that too much over all else in selecting top tier amateur players. Players like Viciedo, Jacobs, Davidson, Barnum, Hawkins, Adolfo have been high profile acquisitions although their scouting profiles with the bat are similar - huge BP power, a lot of swing and miss, poor pitch recognition, hit tool may not progress enough to let the power come through in games. The team has to change its organization approach to identifying hitters. Get guys that put the ball in play and work on developing power instead of vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Oct 26, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) I think it is totally a talent acquisition issue. The Sox FO is enamored of the idea of power (especially RH power) and have prioritized that too much over all else in selecting top tier amateur players. Players like Viciedo, Jacobs, Davidson, Barnum, Hawkins, Adolfo have been high profile acquisitions although their scouting profiles with the bat are similar - huge BP power, a lot of swing and miss, poor pitch recognition, hit tool may not progress enough to let the power come through in games. The team has to change its organization approach to identifying hitters. Get guys that put the ball in play and work on developing power instead of vice versa. This is one type of player they have signed. This is not the only type of player they have drafted and signed. For example, they have also been loading up the team on speedsters. Though I will note that the list is an motley crew of acquisitions... in order of the list in bold Free Agent Trade Trade Draft Draft LatAm signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 23, 2015 -> 06:14 PM) Did you hear he has good makeup? big time thumper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Oct 26, 2015 -> 01:51 AM) Yea, that's the problem. The system has a lot of guys who have the ceiling of an average major league player, but lack impact players. We have one guy who you can legitimately say has a chance to be an all-star position player (Anderson) and while his ceiling is certainly very high, he is also super risky. Pitching wise, we have solid arms (like usual). I would say in the pitching department, we are easily a top-10 system. Hitting wise, we are bottom 10, maybe bottom 5. i agree with your statement and NSS comment on elite hitters. except for 1 player in the minors, i don't see a viable 3b after him. the team needs to weed out the false gold like players and be creative in this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Andre Wheeler replaces JB Wendelken. https://twitter.com/MLBPipeline/status/659404509446283264 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 11:22 AM) Andre Wheeler replaces JB Wendelken. https://twitter.com/MLBPipeline/status/659404509446283264 Any word on why Wendelken left? Hope it's not injury. He could be a factor in the bullpen as soon as next season imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Sox bats doing surprisingly well in AZL thus far: Engel .370/.471/.519 6/3 BB/K 4 SB Peter .348/.400/.435 Delmonico .176/.250/.529 2 HR Trey is having the worst fall, but it doesnt look like he's played in awhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 04:57 PM) Sox bats doing surprisingly well in AZL thus far: Engel .370/.471/.519 6/3 BB/K 4 SB Peter .348/.400/.435 Delmonico .176/.250/.529 2 HR Trey is having the worst fall, but it doesnt look like he's played in awhile Trey can only play on Wed and Sat games, he is like a taxi squad player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 QUOTE (MnSoxFan @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 12:00 PM) Trey can only play on Wed and Sat games, he is like a taxi squad player. And a couple of those have been rained out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Bummed watching the Royals win games in the World Series? Missing Sox baseball? Check out how several top Sox prospects are doing in the Arizona Fall League and abroad in our first offseason recap. http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2015/...-strong-in-afl/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 02:59 PM) Bummed watching the Royals win games in the World Series? Missing Sox baseball? Check out how several top Sox prospects are doing in the Arizona Fall League and abroad in our first offseason recap. http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2015/...-strong-in-afl/ i really like the update. many thanks for your hard work ... now, i don't know, but for me, it appears as this yr group of AFL players the sox sent are not a good group. now i am surprise in a couple of players.... Engel is really coming into his own, esp since June and July.... however being moved to 3b..... i hope he develops more power. Delmonico - i have or starting to loose faith in him. i really had high hopes. Pete - i like to see more of him next yr. he may be somebody to watch. pitching beside Brennan and Leyer, i just don't know. again many thanks to all who assemble this info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo880 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 08:57 AM) i really like the update. many thanks for your hard work ... now, i don't know, but for me, it appears as this yr group of AFL players the sox sent are not a good group. now i am surprise in a couple of players.... Engel is really coming into his own, esp since June and July.... however being moved to 3b..... i hope he develops more power. Delmonico - i have or starting to loose faith in him. i really had high hopes. Pete - i like to see more of him next yr. he may be somebody to watch. pitching beside Brennan and Leyer, i just don't know. again many thanks to all who assemble this info. What are you talking about Engel being moved to 3rd base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 QUOTE (kevo880 @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 03:25 PM) What are you talking about Engel being moved to 3rd base? oops thanks for catching my mistake .... wrong plaer. it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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