southsider2k5 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) Dave built and sustained the Montreal farm system which was considered among the best or the best in baseball for years. He's exactly what the Sox need to take over completely the minor league operations. Mark He is not going anywhere to be their minor league ops guy. He is either going to be a GM or a team President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I guess he was fired for not adding to the roster and going for it at the deadline, we all know that their owner is desperate for a championship. Dombrowski appears to be a victim of his owner's desperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 03:21 PM) He is not going anywhere to be their minor league ops guy. He is either going to be a GM or a team President. I'd take that too in a heartbeat. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) Sure but why? Rick Hahn is a good baseball man. He is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 In sports, as in life, opportunity only knocks a few times. To me, this certainly seems like one of those times, and it will be terribly frustrating if (as is likely going to happen) he moves on to another franchise. This guy has the kind of credentials, the savvy, the experience and the knowledge that our organization has not had for a very long time. And, at least IMO, desperately needs right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Do it JR. Do the loyalty thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Seems odd that some rumors are pointing him to Toronto, why would he trade with them at the deadline then? I wouldn't imagine he'd really want to help them out for a rental piece, makes the current guy more likely to stay and takes a top prospect that could be there still if he moves over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 04:22 PM) I guess he was fired for not adding to the roster and going for it at the deadline, we all know that their owner is desperate for a championship. Dombrowski appears to be a victim of his owner's desperation. The guy is in his 80s and he knows the clock is tickng. That is one thing people miss about JR. I think he is 78, and most of his investors are the same age or older. They don't want to invest 3 or 4 or 5 years in a totsl rebuild with no guarantee it will work. I think they wiill be doing a mini Illich trying to get back to contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 In 2007 Kenny Williams thought he had a deal in place to acquire Miguel Cabrera. I remember that very well - it was a brief but heady moment. And guess who crashed that party? Dombrowski, who agreed to take on the contract of Dontrelle Willis along with Miggy. He won, Kenny lost, and that is a good picture of the two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 The White Sox wouldn't just name a new scouting director if Dombrowski was coming. I think he is going to the Angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (bear_brian @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 04:37 PM) In 2007 Kenny Williams thought he had a deal in place to acquire Miguel Cabrera. I remember that very well - it was a brief but heady moment. And guess who crashed that party? Dombrowski, who agreed to take on the contract of Dontrelle Willis along with Miggy. He won, Kenny lost, and that is a good picture of the two of them. Dombrowski also offered a higher rated bunch of prospects. I don't remember Dontrelle Willis being refused by the sox and getting that deal nixed, it was just that Maybin and Miller were more attractive than Fields and others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 09:50 PM) The White Sox wouldn't just name a new scouting director if Dombrowski was coming. I think he is going to the Angels. interesting.... i totally forgot about the angels. good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (bear_brian @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 04:37 PM) In 2007 Kenny Williams thought he had a deal in place to acquire Miguel Cabrera. I remember that very well - it was a brief but heady moment. And guess who crashed that party? Dombrowski, who agreed to take on the contract of Dontrelle Willis along with Miggy. He won, Kenny lost, and that is a good picture of the two of them. Kenny won a World Series in 2005, Dombrowski lost and that is a good picture of the two of them. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 04:53 PM) Dombrowski also offered a higher rated bunch of prospects. I don't remember Dontrelle Willis being refused by the sox and getting that deal nixed, it was just that Maybin and Miller were more attractive than Fields and others I believe Danks or Floyd were going to be the headliners for the Sox deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I remember Dontrelle Willis being the deal buster back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 03:53 PM) Dombrowski also offered a higher rated bunch of prospects. I don't remember Dontrelle Willis being refused by the sox and getting that deal nixed, it was just that Maybin and Miller were more attractive than Fields and others You could be right about the prospects, but I am sure Willis was the sticking point for us; and, as I recall, Kenny thought he had the deal done - he was crowing to the writers at that moment, similar to what he was saying before we lost Tori Hunter to the Angels. Bottom line - Dombrowski delivered the goods, acquiring one of baseball's all-time best hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 When I saw this, I immediately assumed he already has a job lined up with LAA or BOS. He won't be coming here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 02:50 PM) The White Sox wouldn't just name a new scouting director if Dombrowski was coming. I think he is going to the Angels. If he's leaving Detroit because of a meddling owner, I can't imagine he'd go to Anaheim to work with Moreno and Scioscia. Yes, he'd have resources and a well respected manager, but that mgr has a lot of clout and the owner is a freaking jackass (and as meddling as they come). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (bear_brian @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 05:02 PM) You could be right about the prospects, but I am sure Willis was the sticking point for us; and, as I recall, Kenny thought he had the deal done - he was crowing to the writers at that moment, similar to what he was saying before we lost Tori Hunter to the Angels. Bottom line - Dombrowski delivered the goods, acquiring one of baseball's all-time best hitters. Kenny did have the deal done. Reinsdorf wouldn't take on Dontrelle Willis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJUribe Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Best gm in baseball. Countless of examples of great moves, when it comes to us he dealt us avi, you knew avi would never pan out simply bc DD would not have dealt him w/i his own division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (AJUribe @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 05:17 PM) Best gm in baseball. Countless of examples of great moves, when it comes to us he dealt us avi, you knew avi would never pan out simply bc DD would not have dealt him w/i his own division. The best GM in baseball? I don't think so. He is good, but there are better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Dave will go to Toronto and we will be stuck with KW longer. I can see it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (AJUribe @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 05:17 PM) Best gm in baseball. Countless of examples of great moves, when it comes to us he dealt us avi, you knew avi would never pan out simply bc DD would not have dealt him w/i his own division. The best GM in baseball should have at least one World Series ring. I know that's a lofty goal and all, but it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 doesn't know how to build a farm system. Can't figure out how to build a bullpen. Go away and take Ausmus with you. Some comments from Tigers fans after a DD article. Did they copy and paste Soxtalk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 05:36 PM) The best GM in baseball should have at least one World Series ring. I know that's a lofty goal and all, but it's true. Dombrowski has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 05:36 PM) The best GM in baseball should have at least one World Series ring. I know that's a lofty goal and all, but it's true. But...he does have a world series ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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