Dave Dombrowski hired by the Red Sox

[Quin]

Dombrowski has one.

 

 

But...he does have a world series ring.

 

I look like a dumbass. Was only thinking of his Tigers years.

 

 

 

[caulfield12]

The best GM in baseball should have at least one World Series ring. I know that's a lofty goal and all, but it's true.

 

How about 1997 and 2003?

 

He probably deserves more of the credit for that second championship than anyone else because he was responsible for bringing in all those young piayers, compared to all the changes Cherington made prior to 2013 with free agents.

 

 

 

Dombrowski spent more than a decade in Miami (beginning in 2001), working under owners H. Wayne Huizenga and John W. Henry. Although he built a sound minor league system, the Marlins, with Jim Leyland as their manager, achieved their first great success—the 1997 NL pennant and world championship—with a team composed of many high-salaried players signed as free agents.[citation needed] The following year, Dombrowski presided over Huizenga's mandated fire sale of those veteran players, and the Marlins failed to reached a .500 winning percentage in each of Dombrowski's final four years with the franchise. In November 2001, Dombrowski left Florida to become the president of the Detroit Tigers.[3] Nevertheless, after Henry sold the club in early 2002, the Marlins managed to rebuild behind a nucleus of young players, and in 2003, with a roster consisting chiefly of players Dombrowski had acquired,[4] won the World Series.

 

Dombrowski hired Jim Leyland as manager of the Marlins in 1996. The two had previously worked together with the Chicago White Sox in the early 1980s - Dombrowski as assistant general manager and Leyland as third base coach.[5]

 

 

Think if the White Sox could have kept Dombrowski, LaRussa, Leyland, Duncan, etc. One of those huge franchise what ifs that stings a little bit less now because of 2005.

Edited August 4, 2015 by caulfield12

[Quin]

How about 1997 and 2003?

 

He probably deserves more of the credit for that second championship than anyone else because he was responsible for bringing in all those young piayers, compared to all the changes Cherington made prior to 2013 with free agents.

 

 

 

Dombrowski spent more than a decade in Miami (beginning in 2001), working under owners H. Wayne Huizenga and John W. Henry. Although he built a sound minor league system, the Marlins, with Jim Leyland as their manager, achieved their first great success—the 1997 NL pennant and world championship—with a team composed of many high-salaried players signed as free agents.[citation needed] The following year, Dombrowski presided over Huizenga's mandated fire sale of those veteran players, and the Marlins failed to reached a .500 winning percentage in each of Dombrowski's final four years with the franchise. In November 2001, Dombrowski left Florida to become the president of the Detroit Tigers.[3] Nevertheless, after Henry sold the club in early 2002, the Marlins managed to rebuild behind a nucleus of young players, and in 2003, with a roster consisting chiefly of players Dombrowski had acquired,[4] won the World Series.

 

Dombrowski hired Jim Leyland as manager of the Marlins in 1996. The two had previously worked together with the Chicago White Sox in the early 1980s - Dombrowski as assistant general manager and Leyland as third base coach.[5]

 

 

Think if the White Sox could have kept Dombrowski, LaRussa, Leyland, Duncan, etc. One of those huge franchise what ifs that stings a little bit less now because of 2005.

 

See:

 

I look like a dumbass. Was only thinking of his Tigers years.

 

 

[Lip Man 1]

Dombrowski also offered a higher rated bunch of prospects. I don't remember Dontrelle Willis being refused by the sox and getting that deal nixed, it was just that Maybin and Miller were more attractive than Fields and others

 

I recall reading that the Sox didn't want to take on Willis salary. And that was the deal breaker. Florida was dead set on taking themselves off the hook with his deal.

 

Mark

 

 

[Baron]

Nice thought but he's not coming here. Unless you want to clear out Rick and Kenny.

[Lip Man 1]

Nice thought but he's not coming here. Unless you want to clear out Rick and Kenny.

 

I have no issues clearing out Kenny.

 

Mark

[Chisoxfn]

The best GM in baseball should have at least one World Series ring. I know that's a lofty goal and all, but it's true.

He won in Florida (and in reality, they won a 2nd thanks to him). I would argue he is one of the most decorated GM's in the game.

[bmags]

Berate him more!

[Lip Man 1]

Think if the White Sox could have kept Dombrowski, LaRussa, Leyland, Duncan, etc. One of those huge franchise what ifs that stings a little bit less now because of 2005.

 

When I interviewed Tony I asked him that question. If he ever thought about what would have happened had he stayed 20 years. He said he actually kids JR about that sometimes. His answer was that if he stayed he thought the Sox "would have won multiple championships." Because as he put it "everybody was on the same page, from the owners, to the staff, to the players to the minor league system."

 

You're right...a BIG "what if?"

 

Mark

 

 

 

[caulfield12]

The best GM in baseball? I don't think so. He is good, but there are better

 

Until Friedman wins it all in LA, hard to say he's the best.

 

With Mozeliak, he has been surrounded by so much front office talent, let's see where the Cardinals are in five years now that much of it has been decimated by the hacking scandal as well as other teams pilfering their best talent evaluators.

 

Brian Sabean never gets mentioned but 3/5 World Series wins is hard to beat.

 

Dayton Moore should be considered top five right now...Epstein, Luhnow, etc.

 

[Chisoxfn]

By the way, if we are going to talk about Dombrowski, I have to throw out another name, former Dodgers GM (and current special advisor), Ned Coletti. He developed their fantastic farm system and was a very good GM with the Dodgers. Prior to that, he was instrumental in the Dusty Baker led Giants.

[Quin]

He won in Florida (and in reality, they won a 2nd thanks to him). I would argue he is one of the most decorated GM's in the game.

 

 

Berate him more!

[Quin]

Until Friedman wins it all in LA, hard to say he's the best.

 

With Mozeliak, he has been surrounded by so much front office talent, let's see where the Cardinals are in five years now that much of it has been decimated by the hacking scandal as well as other teams pilfering their best talent evaluators.

 

Brian Sabean never gets mentioned but 3/5 World Series wins is hard to beat.

 

Dayton Moore should be considered top five right now...Epstein, Luhnow, etc.

 

No. Dayton Moore just got out of the cellar. He's sure as hell not Top 5 based on one playoff run and half a good season.

[oldsox]

Did Hawk fire DD?

[Y2Jimmy0]

Did Hawk fire DD?

 

 

Yes he did. Then Dombrowski went on to Montreal under Bill Stoneman (Current Angels Interim GM) to be farm Director and then GM. In 1991, he left to take Marlins GM job under John Henry. Then the Detroit years.

[Quin]

Did Hawk fire DD?

 

Man, Hawk was a bad GM.

[caulfield12]

White Sox general manager Ken Harrelson fired top aide Dave Dombrowski Thursday, citing a ``difference in thinking and in philosophy.``

 

Dombrowski, 29, is a native Chicagoan who was hired by former general manager Roland Hemond, the man Harrelson replaced. Dombrowski held the post of vice president of baseball operations.

 

``Roland Hemond is a good baseball man, and Dave Dombrowski is a good baseball man who grew up under Roland,`` said Harrelson. [/b]``This is not to say that I`m right or that Roland or David is wrong. We`re just different.``

 

Dombrowski said that his overall baseball philosophy and Harrelson`s differed ``at the major-league level, the minor-league level, and our ideas about handling young players. We differed and grew apart.``

 

 

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-06...ball-operations

June 6, 1986

Edited August 4, 2015 by caulfield12

[bear_brian]

Did Hawk fire DD?

 

The way I remember it, Dombrowski was being groomed by Roland Hemond to replace Hemond as the GM. Evidently, Hawk convinced Reinsdorf that he (Hawk) could do a great job as GM. Dombrowski looked at that, and left taking an offer from Montreal.

[caulfield12]

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tige...avila/31121309/

 

The thread title should be released from his contract, like Ozzie in 2011.

 

He wasn't under contract for 2016.

 

Not fired...if he was really fired, Avila would have been the one making all the deadline trades.

[caulfield12]

Tigers are in even more trouble now that he is leaving, thanks.

 

Especially after he gives his son a $75 million KW nepotism contract to set up his family for life, haha.

[South Side Fireworks Man]

The way I remember it, Dombrowski was being groomed by Roland Hemond to replace Hemond as the GM. Evidently, Hawk convinced Reinsdorf that he (Hawk) could do a great job as GM. Dombrowski looked at that, and left taking an offer from Montreal.

Reinsdorf is such a putz.

[Thad Bosley]

Reinsdorf is such a putz.

35 years of putz-tastic ownership from the guy!

[Dick Allen]

35 years of putz-tastic ownership from the guy!

Why is that a putz move? Seems to me you should be applauding having nothing to do with a guy who was groome dby a guy who was the GM through 15 playoff less seasons leaving his minor league system in shambles.

 

You so blind with the JR hate, even if he does what you want you moan about it.

[Thad Bosley]

Why is that a putz move? Seems to me you should be applauding having nothing to do with a guy who was groome dby a guy who was the GM through 15 playoff less seasons leaving his minor league system in shambles.

 

You so blind with the JR hate, even if he does what you want you moan about it.

So we groomed him at a young age for a role we never actually gave him, fired him, and then watched him evolve into one of the most respected baseball execs around. Right around the exact same time we were letting LaRussa and Leyland go to also move onto bigger and better things. Much bigger and better things, to be exact. Certainly not blind to the lack of wisdom on the part of the current owner that led to these very poor personnel decisions.

[Southwest Sider]

Wouldn't it just be a real kick in the nads of Dombrowski took that CEO job in Toronto.

 

I'm okay with Kenny and all, but it would be preferable that his time here came to an end and the team went in another direction. The CEO job was the perfect out, and JR killed it.