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QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 03:07 PM)
The Mark Kotsay thing was on Ozzie. Ozzie wanted more flexibility out of the DH and KW let him make the call. KW wanted to re-sign Thome.

 

And can we please just let Adam Dunn thing go? Sure he was horrible in 2011 and didn't live up to expectations overall, but the fact of the matter is that from 2012-2014 he was 5th in the Majors in HRs and 4th in BBs which are the two things that the Sox signed him to do. This team would look a lot better this year with Adam Dunn on it.

 

I miss Dunn...for realzies

 

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QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 07:36 PM)
It's really easy to criticize Ozzie for what he did as a manager when he made a mistake. The truth is, what made him great is he took credit for his decisions. I miss that. I miss having a manager, too.

 

What made him great was he won the only World Series in almost every living White Sox fan's lifetime. Not many of us can wait another 88 years.

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QUOTE (SCCWS @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 07:15 PM)
What made him great was he won the only World Series in almost every living White Sox fan's lifetime. Not many of us can wait another 88 years.

He parallels Ditka so well is is ridiculous. Piece of s*** human being who won a championship while riding the coat tails of a historic team a superior assistant coach.

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If the White Sox cannot make the playoffs at least once in Chris Sale's tenure with the team, I will be sad.

 

I can only imagine how good he'd be in the clutch if he had a chance to prove himself.

 

As bad as it sounds, if the Sox feel like they have to rebuild, then you have to trade Sale and let him have the chance to win elsewhere.

 

The guy is a class act and an amazing pitcher, he deserves a shot to win it all. Even if it's not with the White Sox.

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QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 02:11 PM)
They won't move him now, and they shouldn't, but the White Sox will move Chris Sale before the three years are up. I would expect him gone a year and a half into the last three years.

then they ought to do it now.

 

As for the Shark trade, Bassitt himself is out-pitching Shark. (but the sox/Cooper have to have the proven veterans). Semien is playing out of position; Phegley still has an OPS over .800. I certainly hope Hahn has a bit more in him than that effort.

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QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 03:07 PM)
The Mark Kotsay thing was on Ozzie. Ozzie wanted more flexibility out of the DH and KW let him make the call. KW wanted to re-sign Thome.

 

And can we please just let Adam Dunn thing go? Sure he was horrible in 2011 and didn't live up to expectations overall, but the fact of the matter is that from 2012-2014 he was 5th in the Majors in HRs and 4th in BBs which are the two things that the Sox signed him to do. This team would look a lot better this year with Adam Dunn on it.

 

Who cares about 2012-2014. The #1 reason they signed him was for 2011 and he put up the worst season in the history of the entire sport. Thats over 130 years. His ineptitude helped lead to the team's downward spiral.

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QUOTE (SCCWS @ Aug 6, 2015 -> 07:15 PM)
What made him great was he won the only World Series in almost every living White Sox fan's lifetime. Not many of us can wait another 88 years.

In all honesty, that was a perfect storm. The White Sox can do better at manager. But I agree with the general sentiment that our front office is an obstacle to any real progress in the organization.

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