Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 10:22 PM) This season has flat out sucked. I'm just ready to get it over with and move on to the offseason. Hope Robin moves on and we get a bat in the offseason and make a few more moves and get this team ready for '16. Hopefully we stop pretending this roster is ready to compete right now and ask what it will take to make a sustainable, multi-year run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Clearly safe this should take seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 02:25 AM) Hopefully we stop pretending this roster is ready to compete right now and ask what it will take to make a sustainable, multi-year run. Full speed straight ahead, even though the pitching staff is likely to have a lot of trouble next year if they're counting on Rodon/Danks/Johnson/Fulmer to team with Q and Sale. Edited August 8, 2015 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 10:25 PM) Full speed straight ahead, even though the pitching staff is likely to have a lot of trouble next year if they're counting on Rodon/Danks/Johnson/Fulmer to team with Q and Sale. They should go with exactly that lineup and expect that you're working 2 rookies into the rotation and you've got 2 rookies in the infield and a struggling 24 year old RF and 2 large expiring contracts and major holes at C and in the infield. Play the kids, clear the contracts out, let guys move up in the minors, maybe have Anderson ready to go by July, and have both money to spend and very few holes to spend it on and lots of assets to choose from after 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Ron Paultard Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 09:07 PM) greg, from 2013-2015, Danks is 112th out of 120 in terms of qualified pitchers in ERA. In terms of xFIP, he's 117th out of 120. Translation = he's been awful Well ya. That's what happens when you take the 2008 version of Danks who touched 95-96 MPH in game #163 on ESPN radar gun.... and take away his fastball as well as his top armspeed on the change-up (read: take away its deception and diving action) Danks is likable to be sure, but as a maximum-effort delivery guy he was always going to get hurt. No doubt it. Baseball is not football, you can't go all-out on every pitch. Danks was always a thrower, never had pin-point control nor the deception that is needed for a crafty-lefty. Now he's starting to, hence his recent run of success, but even that's more to do with him suddenly trying harder to pump 92-93 MPH. Probably unsustainable long-term, but maybe enough to raise his trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Quality start for John Danks. In 7 starts this season vs teams currently in first place: 2.20 ERA, 39 Hits, 2 HR in 45.0 IP #WhiteSox https://twitter.com/ckamka/status/629840108989120512 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 10:34 PM) Quality start for John Danks. In 7 starts this season vs teams currently in first place: 2.20 ERA, 39 Hits, 2 HR in 45.0 IP #WhiteSox https://twitter.com/ckamka/status/629840108989120512 Well yeah, aren't like 4 of those against the Royals and he's been pretty solid against KC in his career? Then throw in a shutout against Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Flowers has looked incredible tonight. Definitely shortened his stroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 08:28 PM) They should go with exactly that lineup and expect that you're working 2 rookies into the rotation and you've got 2 rookies in the infield and a struggling 24 year old RF and 2 large expiring contracts and major holes at C and in the infield. Play the kids, clear the contracts out, let guys move up in the minors, maybe have Anderson ready to go by July, and have both money to spend and very few holes to spend it on and lots of assets to choose from after 2016. I want a bat this offseason. If we spend big money on Shark and not a bat I'm going to be pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Ron Paultard Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 09:25 PM) Full speed straight ahead, even though the pitching staff is likely to have a lot of trouble next year if they're counting on Rodon/Danks/Johnson/Fulmer to team with Q and Sale. OK help me out here. I haven't seen much of the Sox last several years, but as a kid followed them closely (this board too. Is Fulmer legit? Tim Lincecum or glorified Danish? tnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 QUOTE (L. Ron Paultard @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 02:38 AM) OK help me out here. I haven't seen much of the Sox last several years, but as a kid followed them closely (this board too. Is Fulmer legit? Tim Lincecum or glorified Danish? tnx Way more Lincecum-ish than Danish. Fulmer absolutely dominated the best conference in the NCAA. Biggest concern with him, IMO, is his mediocre command. I'm excited about his potential, but I have a feeling his first year will resemble Rodon's this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I thought that ball was gone. Good work doubleT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Nice Trayce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Gotta go up the middle or left center Sally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 02:41 AM) Gotta go up the middle or left center Sally Seems like Saladino is in-between a lot on his swings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 10:40 PM) Way more Lincecum-ish than Danish. Fulmer absolutely dominated the best conference in the NCAA. Biggest concern with him, IMO, is his mediocre command. I'm excited about his potential, but I have a feeling his first year will resemble Rodon's this year. I 100% agree with this. He will also have to work to improve his changeup (3rd pitch). The comp they made while he was at Vandy in the College World Series was Sonny Gray. He should probably follow the same path Rodon took, come up early next year, pile up 160 innings, and we should expect him to struggle some because he'll be a rookie still learning. Make use of Danks, pitch him 50-100 innings as a starter, work EJ and Fulmer in, get their rookie struggles out of the way, and then we're sitting on the best rotation in baseball in 2017 with everyone under 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Well, that was a terrible at bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Unintentional/intentional walk to Jose ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 10:42 PM) Seems like Saladino is in-between a lot on his swings. Aced him. Tough pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 This team sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Damnit Jose be smart ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Some bad body language there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 HEY NATE'S UP!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Abreu 2 out of the zone swings . Not smart situational hitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 To me sorry that at least partially on the coaching staff... our guys look scared to death up there in those situations. Jose could be really good... but man he has some horrible at bats. Gets his head stuck real far up is *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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