L. Ron Paultard Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 06:58 PM) Cabreroid Oh yeah, about that. It's hilarious poking fun at old Melky-pants, but Balta I like to point out that probably like 3/4 of big names we all know are or were on some sort of juice, HGH, greenies, designer stuff, the whole bizangle haha. For instance, oh say....Carlos Quentin circa 2008.... Jose Batista.... A-Rod/Texeira/Pujols types probably even this year....Manny, Big Papi of course....or Mike "Mantle" Trout or Puig circa 2013, for that matter are legit.... you'll prolly be very disappointed. It's crazy. One of the things I always felt proud to be a Sox fan is because it's a relatively clean organization --- emphasis on relatively. /end OT Edited August 9, 2015 by L. Ron Paultard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 No coach could ever keep their job in any sport as bad as this team is playing right now and after 3 losing seasons. I don't blame it all on Robin.. but the experiment is over. Need a fresh start... this is painful and we can't do this again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Mental blunders....why is Jennings even bothering to look at Kendrys Morales, who isn't going anywhere in a million years? Kind of embarassing to be drawing attention to yourself like Melky has been doing recently when you should be worried more about winning the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 QUOTE (L. Ron Paultard @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 08:46 PM) Oh yeah, about that. It's hilarious poking fun at old Melky-pants, but Balta I like to point out that probably like 3/4 of big names we all know are or were on some sort of suice, HGH, greenies, designer stuff. For instance, oh say....Carlos Quentin circa 2008.... Jose Batista.... A-Rod/Texeira/Pujols types probably even this year.... or Mike "Mantle" Trout for that matter are legit.... you'll prolly be very disappointed. It's crazy. One of the things I always felt proud to be a Sox fan is because it's a relatively clean organization --- emphasis on relatively. /end OT And congrats on defending Melky. I'll continue to be proud of those defending him until his next suspension comes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 Anywho, F*** tonight. 10-11 now for this team since the AS break and 2-6 since Rick Hahn said "if we keep playing like this we'll be right there at the end." 7-1 against teams that have quit and 3-10 against teams that haven't. Congrats on your success and I hope you are judged on it Ricky. It's 100% what you asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 4.62 ERA now. Bassitt is a better pitcher this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 If Hahn can't even name his own manager, he should walk. Supposedly, he's had tremendous interest from 3-4 other teams, if he's so great...should be easy to find another job in baseball. Or maybe he gets lucky and Williams finally leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 12:42 PM) Gonna be hot with game starting at 6 and stadium baking in 90s. KC 10, Chicago 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 QUOTE (harkness @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 07:47 PM) No coach could ever keep their job in any sport as bad as this team is playing right now and after 3 losing seasons. I don't blame it all on Robin.. but the experiment is over. Need a fresh start... this is painful and we can't do this again next year. Fans see this no wonder talk about Sox baseball is in the gutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Bottom line is this front office is paid to get it right. They're not. This entire organization sucks. Needs a cleanse. Won't happen. Jose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Now is when Abreu homers or gets hit by a pitch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Still swinging with 1 hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 Jose on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) Haha. Called that one. Hits that ball in the fifth, it's 5-3 White Sox. Soto with the wandering mind, though. Play smart you win, play dumb you lose. Edited August 9, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Samardzija's next game will be against Cubs. Be interesting if he throws at any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Hahn probably isn't allowed to pick his own manager. Doesn't seem that way at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 LaDunn needs to quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 06:55 PM) Samardzija's next game will be against Cubs. Be interesting if he throws at any of them. Might be the only way to keep the White Sox off page 17 of the sports section. That or some fresh Ozzie quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Ron Paultard Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 07:41 PM) You're underselling all of them IMO. Lower end major leaguers, if they are 1-2 WAR players, means that in 1 season they are more valuable to us than Samardzija would be and they control them for 6 years. And there's a nonzero chance of each of them winding up as all star players, we just didn't want to develop them. We wanted to win right now instead of developing people and now we see how well it worked. The A's wanted to develop people and they're going to get more out of thsoe player this year than we get out of Samardzija. Then they have those 3 for 2 more years pre-arb, 3 Arb years, and then Ravelo on top of that. If we were a deep roster, ready to compete right now, that would make sense. We are not. The fact that our front office thought we were means that we'll be rebuilding again in 2016. That trade and our fail to trade Samardzija at the deadline has delayed our move back to competition by 2 years. You are right, to a point. A deep farm system is indeed an asset overall --- it certainly beats a depleted one, as Sox have unfortunately found out the hard way a few years back. However, since overwhelming majority of prospects end up being big busts.... quantity only takes you so far. You need QUALITY. You need STARS. And since you're paying for future performance/upside, Jeff Samardja seemed to offer that in the eyes of Rich Hahn. It doesn't always work out in reality, but his reasoning was solid. This is where you are confusing the 2 things: contrary to the common media wisdom, the Sox problem is NOT that they traded away too many non-prospects like Semien or Ravelo. It may appear that way on the surface, but trust me it's NOT. No, the real, long-running, STRUCTURAL problem for the Sox has always been: terrible scouts + terrible "loyalty hire" coaches + lack of unified professional philosophy. Yes bright spots like Frank Thomas or luck-outs like Chris Sale aside... those many years of organization ineptitude add up to poison even the few good things that this franchise used to have going for it. If not for 2005 semi-fluke World Series... White Sox might have been contracted or relocated by now. True story. So unless this fundamental, structural ownership issue is addressed... don't expect Rick Hahn or anyone else to magically make beautiful trades. PS. Now, with that being said, baseball is one WEIRD-ASS game. Which is one of the reason we all love it. So if Sox were somehow to back into the playoff this year... they may just win the World Series again, hahah October is total crapshoot with Chris Sale on the bump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Carlos nice hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 05:55 PM) Samardzija's next game will be against Cubs. Be interesting if he throws at any of them. Just tuning in - has he looked that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 05:56 PM) LaDunn needs to quit. That would help a lot but even then do you trust the front office to do any good with the extra $13M ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 9, 2015 -> 02:00 AM) Just tuning in - has he looked that bad? Looked good first 3 innings and then looked like Arnie Munoz in 4th and 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Samardzija had like 21-22 starts of 5+ innings. Last two after the deadline, of course...0 for 2 getting through the fifth even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I just want a new manager that has experience and can get them playing smarter. I want one with experience so he can say, "OK, I've done this with X team, so I'll do this with the Sox." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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