Jose Abreu

[harkness99]

I was kind of down on him earlier...and he still gives away too many at bats.. is scary to think how good he could be if he gets more patient.

 

.296 12th in the AL

21 HR ties for 13 in the AL

67 RBI 9th in the AL

 

Probably 70% of the reason I watch the Sox right now is because of him.

 

[spiderman]

I was kind of down on him earlier...and he still gives away too many at bats.. is scary to think how good he could be if he gets more patient.

 

.296 12th in the AL

21 HR ties for 13 in the AL

67 RBI 9th in the AL

 

Probably 70% of the reason I watch the Sox right now is because of him.

 

He's a great offensive player; He'll probably finish with about .290, 30 HR and 90 RBI on a bad offensive team.

[greg775]

He's really good. Second year in a row he's basically the only bright spot along with Sale.

[spiderman]

He's really good. Second year in a row he's basically the only bright spot along with Sale.

 

Yep, hopefully Sale doesn't have any health concerns, just a bad stretch, but they have 2 two of the top players in the league on their team and have surrounded them with a pretty poor roster.

 

[Bigsoxhurt35]

We desperately need to add a bat to go with Eaton, Cabrera, and Abreu. Also hope Garcia gets it together. Has the potential certainly

[Bigsoxhurt35]

There are some smaller bright spots for me at least. Carlos looks like he's going to lock down 2B for the future. May not be an all-star but is awesome defensively. The pen is improved. I still have high hopes for this staff (Sale, Q, Rodon). Quintana is going nowhere now for me at least. He must stay. Only type of player I'd move him for is Puig. Anderson is doing well in the minors and should be ready in the next year or two. Alexis can hold down SS until he's ready (though he can have some crazy bad moments then flip that stud fielding switch). Saladino can play 3B soundly. I'd roll with hi. Next season unless we can upgrade it (Davidson is a flop). My hope for the top of the order is Eaton, Sanchez, Melky, Abreu, Puig, Garcia. Then figure out 7-9. I'm hoping we move Garcia to 1B and Adam is gone.

[greg775]

There are some smaller bright spots for me at least. Carlos looks like he's going to lock down 2B for the future. May not be an all-star but is awesome defensively. The pen is improved. I still have high hopes for this staff (Sale, Q, Rodon). Quintana is going nowhere now for me at least. He must stay. Only type of player I'd move him for is Puig. Anderson is doing well in the minors and should be ready in the next year or two. Alexis can hold down SS until he's ready (though he can have some crazy bad moments then flip that stud fielding switch). Saladino can play 3B soundly. I'd roll with hi. Next season unless we can upgrade it (Davidson is a flop). My hope for the top of the order is Eaton, Sanchez, Melky, Abreu, Puig, Garcia. Then figure out 7-9. I'm hoping we move Garcia to 1B and Adam is gone.

Jose is special, but some of the other guys you mention are OK but can't hit. Saladino won't hit for much in the bigs and Sanchez isn't a big league hitter. It'd be nice to get rid of Lexi and use his salary on other needs. Rodon is good but has a long long way to go to be consistent IMO. We need to bring up Johnson and see what he's got. Might as well rest Sale the rest of the season and put Johnson in there IMO. Or give Sale one start every 2 weeks and pitch Johnson a lot more. I truly think Saladino and Sanchez are not the answer. Good gloves, though.

[Bigsoxhurt35]

Jose is special, but some of the other guys you mention are OK but can't hit. Saladino won't hit for much in the bigs and Sanchez isn't a big league hitter. It'd be nice to get rid of Lexi and use his salary on other needs. Rodon is good but has a long long way to go to be consistent IMO. We need to bring up Johnson and see what he's got. Might as well rest Sale the rest of the season and put Johnson in there IMO. Or give Sale one start every 2 weeks and pitch Johnson a lot more. I truly think Saladino and Sanchez are not the answer. Good gloves, though.

Sanchez has been hitting lately and Micah needs polishing on his defense. He's a liability up here.

[reiks12]

He had LaDunn hitting behind him for most of the season. If he was on an actual MLB ball club he would have much better numbers.

[spiderman]

We desperately need to add a bat to go with Eaton, Cabrera, and Abreu. Also hope Garcia gets it together. Has the potential certainly

 

They probably can't give up on Garcia yet since they can't possibly fill every hole they currently have and upgrade at others.

 

They need two guys capable of hitting the ball out of the park, but not sure how they accomplish this without trading minor league talent.

[spiderman]

Sanchez has been hitting lately and Micah needs polishing on his defense. He's a liability up here.

 

I'm not opposed to making Micah a DH next season if he doesn't improve his defense; Some reports have indicated improved fielding though. If that is true, and he is still a 2B, is Sanchez a backup IF?

[spiderman]

There are some smaller bright spots for me at least. Carlos looks like he's going to lock down 2B for the future. May not be an all-star but is awesome defensively. The pen is improved. I still have high hopes for this staff (Sale, Q, Rodon). Quintana is going nowhere now for me at least. He must stay. Only type of player I'd move him for is Puig. Anderson is doing well in the minors and should be ready in the next year or two. Alexis can hold down SS until he's ready (though he can have some crazy bad moments then flip that stud fielding switch). Saladino can play 3B soundly. I'd roll with hi. Next season unless we can upgrade it (Davidson is a flop). My hope for the top of the order is Eaton, Sanchez, Melky, Abreu, Puig, Garcia. Then figure out 7-9. I'm hoping we move Garcia to 1B and Adam is gone.

 

Sanchez has hitten much better and with his solid defense, it will hard to displace him next season.

 

The bullpen is clearly better; Robertson has been a good signing and the middle relief, while not great, has been solid.

 

Quintana has to stay. I don't see how he can be moved with the uncertainty of the rest of the rotation. Sale and Danks are in the rotation for next season, but the #3 (or #2 depending on how you view Quintana) and #4 are open. Obviously, Rodon is probably the #4 starter next season, but I think they should consider letting one of their minor league's arm battle for the last job. Minor league development has to be the key here and guys like Montas and Johnson may be the best options since they avoid long-term, expensive contracts and may have good upside themselves.

[LDF]

Sanchez has hitten much better and with his solid defense, it will hard to displace him next season.

 

The bullpen is clearly better; Robertson has been a good signing and the middle relief, while not great, has been solid.

 

Quintana has to stay. I don't see how he can be moved with the uncertainty of the rest of the rotation. Sale and Danks are in the rotation for next season, but the #3 (or #2 depending on how you view Quintana) and #4 are open. Obviously, Rodon is probably the #4 starter next season, but I think they should consider letting one of their minor league's arm battle for the last job. Minor league development has to be the key here and guys like Montas and Johnson may be the best options since they avoid long-term, expensive contracts and may have good upside themselves.

 

here is my problem. the team has holes, how are the FO going to fix those holes??

 

either trade or fa's rt. they will not find all the answers vis Fa b/c the owners will not allow them the spend that much.

 

it has to fall back on trading someone or a group of someone's. who?

[LDF]

I'm not opposed to making Micah a DH next season if he doesn't improve his defense; Some reports have indicated improved fielding though. If that is true, and he is still a 2B, is Sanchez a backup IF?

 

and are you ok with a weak hitting 3b in saladino. if that is the case, why not keep beckham there.

 

something needs to happen with that lineup in the offseason.

[spiderman]

here is my problem. the team has holes, how are the FO going to fix those holes??

 

either trade or fa's rt. they will not find all the answers vis Fa b/c the owners will not allow them the spend that much.

 

it has to fall back on trading someone or a group of someone's. who?

 

Free agency isn't the full solution; it can be used to fix one (maybe two) specific needs, but if the White Sox are going to re-sign Samarzija, they probably won't be in the free agency market for much else beyond role type players offensively. Most of the help probably has to come internally and/or through trade.

 

There's a good chance that the C (Flowers/Soto) combination could be back, and I'm sure they are encouraged by Sanchez to make him the 2B going forward.

 

3B, RF and DH would be the area's where holes need to be filled and it's probably unrealistic to assume that La Roche won't play the majority of the time there since he is making $12 million next season and potentially solves one of their holes.

 

[spiderman]

and are you ok with a weak hitting 3b in saladino. if that is the case, why not keep beckham there.

 

something needs to happen with that lineup in the offseason.

 

3B is probably the toughest position to fill (if you allow that catcher is probably going to be a continued combination of Flowers / Soto). I don't think Saladino is a major league hitter, and we know Beckham isn't. The White Sox have some decent defense at that spot, but it's the one area where they need to find offense at.

 

To answer your question, I'm not happy with either guy starting at 3B next season.

[Balta1701]

3B is probably the toughest position to fill (if you allow that catcher is probably going to be a continued combination of Flowers / Soto). I don't think Saladino is a major league hitter, and we know Beckham isn't. The White Sox have some decent defense at that spot, but it's the one area where they need to find offense at.

 

To answer your question, I'm not happy with either guy starting at 3B next season.

I don't get why people are assuming Soto will be around next year. I'd imagine he's going to command a decent contract as a FA and maybe a chance to start from someone.

[spiderman]

I don't get why people are assuming Soto will be around next year. I'd imagine he's going to command a decent contract as a FA and maybe a chance to start from someone.

 

I'm assuming the Sox would bring him back even on a decent contract.

[LDF]

3B is probably the toughest position to fill (if you allow that catcher is probably going to be a continued combination of Flowers / Soto). I don't think Saladino is a major league hitter, and we know Beckham isn't. The White Sox have some decent defense at that spot, but it's the one area where they need to find offense at.

 

To answer your question, I'm not happy with either guy starting at 3B next season.

 

and neither am i.

 

by the way, i was rereading what i wrote, if i came across kinda of strong, i apologize.

[LDF]

Free agency isn't the full solution; it can be used to fix one (maybe two) specific needs, but if the White Sox are going to re-sign Samarzija, they probably won't be in the free agency market for much else beyond role type players offensively. Most of the help probably has to come internally and/or through trade.

 

There's a good chance that the C (Flowers/Soto) combination could be back, and I'm sure they are encouraged by Sanchez to make him the 2B going forward.

 

3B, RF and DH would be the area's where holes need to be filled and it's probably unrealistic to assume that La Roche won't play the majority of the time there since he is making $12 million next season and potentially solves one of their holes.

 

ref to rf and dh, i am ok with Avi in the outfield. and what to do with adam laroche. he is under contract and the owners are not going to pay him to sit.

 

if the sox do sign shark then i am looking at the trade route.

 

i can see a lot of help in trading to acquire the missing pieces.

[Balta1701]

ref to rf and dh, i am ok with Avi in the outfield. and what to do with adam laroche. he is under contract and the owners are not going to pay him to sit.

 

if the sox do sign shark then i am looking at the trade route.

 

i can see a lot of help in trading to acquire the missing pieces.

If you're ok with Avi in the OF, you're ok with Adam LaRoche at 1b. They each have similar chances of being worth something next year IMO. Play Avi and see if he turns into something useful, play LaRoche and see if he can turn around next year while playing for one last shot to stay in the league. If neither happens, then you're clear of LaRoche's contract and you know you need to replace Avi in RF.

[LDF]

If you're ok with Avi in the OF, you're ok with Adam LaRoche at 1b. They each have similar chances of being worth something next year IMO. Play Avi and see if he turns into something useful, play LaRoche and see if he can turn around next year while playing for one last shot to stay in the league. If neither happens, then you're clear of LaRoche's contract and you know you need to replace Avi in RF.

 

i disagree simply by pointing out the production of each players via the stats.

 

what more does a player have to do, it is his first yr, he is of young age, positive results esp in avg...... why the hate???

Edited August 10, 2015 by LDF

[harkness99]

I haven't seen enough of Saladino to make any final judgements on him... not even close.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

I haven't seen enough of Saladino to make any final judgements on him... not even close.

 

Very reasonable. How dare you ! You must immediately pass judgement on a rookie !

[Balta1701]

Very reasonable. How dare you ! You must immediately pass judgement on a rookie !

If you're going to spend big money and make big trades to fill other positions and make this team competitive right now while giving that rookie/young player a starting spot...you are passing judgment on him. Your team can't afford for him to disappoint if you do that.