Boogua Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 3, 2016 -> 12:06 PM) You would have to bench Longley completely. He would be worthless in a series like this. Rodman at the 5 and Kukoc at the 4 would be the way to go. I think defensively they would be fine, though challenged, more so than any team they saw at that time. Offensively it gets a little bit trickier. Rodman, Kukoc, Pippen, Jordan and Harper: where's the outside shooting? where's the spacing for jordan to post up or pippen to slash consistently against the top defenses of today? remember, no illegal defense. you can cheat, shade, sag, etc today without being called for illegal defense. So the Warriors get a short 3-point line to play with? This is something that's rarely discussed. The Bulls feasted on the shorter line that year. The splash brothers with a 22 foot 3 point line? Yikes. They'd still want to shoot deeper 3s. The shorter line would ultimately hurt spacing a bit and the physicality would definitely hurt them a lot. The bulls with Rodman at the 5 could switch every pick and roll also. People talk about how you HAVE to go small against the Warriors, yet the only two teams that took them to 6 games last year were teams that played Thompson and Mozgov together and Z Bo and gasol together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 3, 2016 -> 12:17 PM) I didn't mean Jordan couldn't post up at all. He'd be the best post-up guard in the game. But in 1996, you could clear out one side of the court and let him go to work. If you doubled, in 1996, you had to actually double. No inbetween. Now you can flood the strongside without hard double teaming and not get called for illegal d. That's why spacing, ball movement and shooting is so much more important in the modern game. I know you know this. just reiterating. Lebron posted up the whole series and sucks, but took them to 6 games. He played with two bigs that can't shoot threes and two smalls that were mediocre shooters. Jordan would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Apr 3, 2016 -> 12:51 PM) I think the best part of this series would be Rodman mind-f***ing Draymond. Draymond would be worthless in the 90s NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (Boogua @ Apr 3, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) They'd still want to shoot deeper 3s. The shorter line would ultimately hurt spacing a bit and the physicality would definitely hurt them a lot. The bulls with Rodman at the 5 could switch every pick and roll also. Iggy, Green and Barnes would unquestionably benefit from a shorter line. When Dennis Scott and John Starks are breaking 3-point records you know there's a reason for that. People talk about how you HAVE to go small against the Warriors, yet the only two teams that took them to 6 games last year were teams that played Thompson and Mozgov together and Z Bo and gasol together. The Warriors, after being down 2-1 to the grizzlies, won games 4, 5 and 6 by 17, 20 and 13 points. And after being down 2-1 to the Cavs they won games 4, 5 and 6 by 21, 13 and 8 (jr smith hit like three 3's in the last minute to make that game 6 score respectable). The warriors obviously made their adjustments and trounced both teams after being down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (Boogua @ Apr 3, 2016 -> 01:18 PM) Lebron posted up the whole series and sucks, but took them to 6 games. He played with two bigs that can't shoot threes and two smalls that were mediocre shooters. Jordan would be fine. LeBron also shot below 40% for the series (obviously missing his 2nd and 3rd options didn't help). I'm just saying it would be different and he/they would have to adjust. Assuming, of course, that were playing without illegal defense. This is why i say 20 years is too big a gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 this is me, but dang it, the bulls won yesterday. do they want a good draft pick or what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 05:48 AM) this is me, but dang it, the bulls won yesterday. do they want a good draft pick or what??? The Bull aren't playing for a draft pick. They're still playing for a playoff spot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 3, 2016 -> 08:24 PM) LeBron also shot below 40% for the series (obviously missing his 2nd and 3rd options didn't help). I'm just saying it would be different and he/they would have to adjust. Assuming, of course, that were playing without illegal defense. This is why i say 20 years is too big a gap. Yes, that's why I said he sucked. He isn't a great post player nor is he a good midrange shooter. Jordan is probably the GOAT at both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 07:43 AM) The Bull aren't playing for a draft pick. They're still playing for a playoff spot.... and truthfully, there is only 5 games left and they are right at .500. There really isnt going to be a huge draft pick slot swing that is affected by their play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 12:43 PM) The Bull aren't playing for a draft pick. They're still playing for a playoff spot.... well i can see that they would like to gain a playoff spot, and for my opinion is they, the bulls need to show justification of this mess with the coaching staff and such. however the quality of this yr draft, not wit standing, there is some difference in the positional players at 10/11 who can help th bulls more than a player selected at 16-20. i do not care if the bulls will not acknowledge that they do need to rebuild, getting a better draft pick will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Want to just point out, with the backs against the wall, Butler has put up back to back spectacular performances. I still think the thought of moving him is delusional. His issues are more due to older vets being bothered by him establishing himself as the leader and when you look at how he puts in his work, how hard he plays, can you really argue? Hell, look at how much better of a passer he is. He's got to work more on this leadership part but it is going to be really interesting to see how things change this off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 11:53 AM) Want to just point out, with the backs against the wall, Butler has put up back to back spectacular performances. I still think the thought of moving him is delusional. His issues are more due to older vets being bothered by him establishing himself as the leader and when you look at how he puts in his work, how hard he plays, can you really argue? Hell, look at how much better of a passer he is. He's got to work more on this leadership part but it is going to be really interesting to see how things change this off-season. It seems to me Rose is better when Butler is out, and Butler is better when Rose is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 11:57 AM) It seems to me Rose is better when Butler is out, and Butler is better when Rose is out. Have one of them come off the bench. I've been saying this all season. Preferably Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 09:57 AM) It seems to me Rose is better when Butler is out, and Butler is better when Rose is out. Yeah, I agree that it seems evident that the Bulls need to move one of them, and that should be Rose. I've also heard from some people with ties that Rose, while he wants to stay in Chicago, is kind of wanting a fresh break and a clean start elsewhere. I think the Bulls move Rose this off-season and officially build this team around Jimmy (clearly they'll need to find more and I don't think it will happen overnight). I'd also argue, the top coaches in this league would likely find a way for them to work it out, but given Rose isn't really a great passer, I think it makes things harder as they are both ultimately ball heavy players. Rose without the ball is god awful, like god awful. He doesn't cut much and really is an awful player off the ball (I feel like it is because he's afraid of injury). Jimmy, on the other hand, while ball dominant, is still a very good player without the ball (does a lot of cutting, etc). I think the Bulls would benefit greatly from getting a true point guard and a legit big. Add in a stretch forward and a shooting two guard and that would be nice. Easier said than done though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxsoxsoxsox Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 12:11 PM) Yeah, I agree that it seems evident that the Bulls need to move one of them, and that should be Rose. Jimmy called out their golden boy. I bet GarPax flipped their wigs on that one. They'll probably do everything they can to try and move him in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 11:14 AM) Jimmy called out their golden boy. I bet GarPax flipped their wigs on that one. They'll probably do everything they can to try and move him in the offseason. I don't think Gar is going to be around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 07:14 PM) Jimmy called out their golden boy. I bet GarPax flipped their wigs on that one. They'll probably do everything they can to try and move him in the offseason. i feel stupid here but who is their golden boy??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 02:43 PM) i feel stupid here but who is their golden boy??? Coach Hoiberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 01:24 PM) I don't think Gar is going to be around. If he is, Bulls fan better f***ing riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 08:44 PM) Coach Hoiberg. oh, i thought it might have been gar or rose. was that the comment he made back around xmas of the coach being too soft??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Apr 4, 2016 -> 08:51 PM) If he is, Bulls fan better f***ing riot. no offense, but JR doesn't bow down to fans and media.... look at KW, looke RV and the sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Wouldn't that be Paxson's call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I find it remarkable that on a knee that JB has said will require surgery in offseason, coach hoiberg is playing him 38 minutes a night with not a story in the papers. It's almost like those stories may have been pushed from somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 Bulls got smacked by Memphis. Butler 5 pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 5, 2016 -> 10:47 PM) Bulls got smacked by Memphis. Butler 5 pts Rose and Butler were both pathetic tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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