Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 18, 2016 -> 02:21 PM) Drafting Simmons definitely isn't a slam dunk. I'm with you for the most part as there aren't many teams I wouldn't trade places with as a Bulls fan but I'm not really sold on what the Sixers are doing either. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 They sound nice, but together they were awful, and adding Ben Simmons to an undisciplined young team doesn't scream championship to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ May 18, 2016 -> 02:27 PM) They sound nice, but together they were awful, and adding Ben Simmons to an undisciplined young team doesn't scream championship to me. I never said they'd win one. I said they were in a better position to win one going forward than the Bulls are. Which is still true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Maybe. Miami's sudden rebuild with conviction looks possible to me with the bulls. But the bulls are stupid, so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 18, 2016 -> 12:28 PM) I never said they'd win one. I said they were in a better position to win one going forward than the Bulls are. Which is still true. Jimmy Butler is better than every player on the Sixers (including the #1 pick). Yes, I would still take the Bulls going-forward, the only thing that gives me pause in it is how little I think of Hoiberg as a coach. Bulls also have cap space. Not saying they'll do much with it, but put a quality coach on this team and find a good point guard and another solid player and yes, I think we'd be a pretty good team. Championship, no, but I don't see the Sixers being anywhere close to a championship either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Philly media people dont even believe they will make the playoffs next year and are just looking for them to look like an NBA team. That isnt quite a vote of confidence to give your basketball team. Yeah I would take the Bulls over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 18, 2016 -> 02:54 PM) Jimmy Butler is better than every player on the Sixers (including the #1 pick). Yes, I would still take the Bulls going-forward, the only thing that gives me pause in it is how little I think of Hoiberg as a coach. Bulls also have cap space. Not saying they'll do much with it, but put a quality coach on this team and find a good point guard and another solid player and yes, I think we'd be a pretty good team. Championship, no, but I don't see the Sixers being anywhere close to a championship either. It's not fair to say Jimmy is better than the number 1 pick because we have no clue what Simmons or Ingram is going to be. All I know is Jimmy is a great(not elite) player that can't be the number 1 guy on a championship team. The odds of Simmons or Ingram being that number 1 guy certainly aren't high but we don't know for sure that they aren't. Edited May 18, 2016 by Rowand44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I like Ingraham a lot but you are right he's probably a #2. I liked most all of the sixers players in college, but I worry their growth in the NBA was severely stunted from so many non-nba players around them where they were covering up their mistakes and not truly learning to excel with their talents. Compare that to the celts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 18, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) Would you rather have the Bulls coach, roster, and financial situation or Brent Brown, tons of $$ to spend, and Ben Simmons, Joel Embiid, Dario Saric, Jahlil Okafor, and Nerlens Noel? The Bulls are a year away from being out from every major contract except Jimmy Butler. Their financial situation isn't bad at all when you consider what the cap is about to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ May 18, 2016 -> 03:14 PM) I like Ingraham a lot but you are right he's probably a #2. I liked most all of the sixers players in college, but I worry their growth in the NBA was severely stunted from so many non-nba players around them where they were covering up their mistakes and not truly learning to excel with their talents. Compare that to the celts. Amazing when you have a typo and actually add more letters to their name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Jordan's gambling and womanizing would be just as much of a non-story now as it was back then. It's gotta be wayyyy juicier than that, AND caught on camera. I think he'd be smart enough, and, more importantly, protected enough to be just fine this day in age. I mean c'mon, Kobe raped a girl...how's he doing since then? Was it even brought up at all throughout the season-long slobberfest of a retirement party?? Is his legacy tainted one iota?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 18, 2016 -> 01:17 PM) The Bulls are a year away from being out from every major contract except Jimmy Butler. Their financial situation isn't bad at all when you consider what the cap is about to do. And Butler is on a bargain of a deal all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 18, 2016 -> 04:27 PM) And Butler is on a bargain of a deal all things considered. Butler could easily be dealt for anything from another star player to a package of top draft picks and young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 The Bulls "superstar" doesn't get along with the coach and doesn't want to play his system. I'd rather have Ingram or Simmons. One of those might be good enough to be the best player on a champion. Jimmy Butler isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Warriors got mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 18, 2016 -> 07:20 PM) They are getting Ben Simmons though, who I believe is a superstar. So they'll have 1 more superstar than the Bulls currently have giving them a better chance going forward. Bulls are in basketball hell. I'd like to see the Bulls trade up to get Jamal Murray. Don't know what it would take but aside form Ben Simmons, he is the guy I'd want for the Bulls. You can have Brandon Ingram. It's Murray who is the gem (along with Simmons). I still like the Thunder in five or six. Good job by the Warriors tonight, though, but as the Spurs proved in Game One vs. OKC, margin of victory means nothing. The OKC fans are crazy; GS in deep trouble still. Bet.The.House. Thunder to cover for sure in Game Three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 18, 2016 -> 11:18 PM) I'd like to see the Bulls trade up to get Jamal Murray. Don't know what it would take but aside form Ben Simmons, he is the guy I'd want for the Bulls. You can have Brandon Ingram. It's Murray who is the gem (along with Simmons). I still like the Thunder in five or six. Good job by the Warriors tonight, though, but as the Spurs proved in Game One vs. OKC, margin of victory means nothing. The OKC fans are crazy; GS in deep trouble still. Bet.The.House. Thunder to cover for sure in Game Three. Stone cold lock picks by greg the leg. If you dont have a house, you dont need one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) Phil Jackson resigning. I had a feeling Hornacek was a power play from Isiah Thomas and I believe we're about to find that out. Edit: wait definitely fake la times twitter. f***kk. My bad. Still believe the latter. Edited May 19, 2016 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Frank Vogel is the new coach of the Magic on a 4/22 deal. Think it's a definite upgrade on Skiles so I'm pretty happy with the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ May 19, 2016 -> 09:30 PM) This may be the worst ECF ever. Somehow worse than the one last year. At least the Hawks were in some of the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxsoxsoxsox Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Tony @ May 19, 2016 -> 09:30 PM) This may be the worst ECF ever. was hoping for Heat \ Cavs then Whiteside got hurt funny the Bulls didn't even make the playoffs. Edited May 20, 2016 by buhbuhburrrrlz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ May 19, 2016 -> 09:30 PM) This may be the worst ECF ever. http://www.basketball-reference.com/playof...-vs-pacers.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 19, 2016 -> 11:27 PM) http://www.basketball-reference.com/playof...-vs-pacers.html At least some of those were close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Well, there's a difference between one team dominating another (something we've seen many times) and just horses*** basketball. The '04 ECFs was so bad that the league stepped in and instituted rule changes that have effectively saved the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 20, 2016 -> 12:27 AM) http://www.basketball-reference.com/playof...-vs-pacers.html LOL I was in Iraq this year and never actually saw those games. Holy s***. The most depressing thing about this to me is the Bulls couldn't even qualify for this s***-show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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