Chisoxfn Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 27, 2015 -> 11:10 AM) Let me get this straight, he broke in and slipped something in her drink?? At what point after someone "broke into your house" are you taking a drink? Super fishy. Based upon the case filed...he invited her over to his place and when their, slipped her something in her drink, expecting it to go down at his place. She wasn't interested, took a cab back home, and they followed her to her home and broke in and she has flash memories of what happened and woke up to an awful scene and her roommate (who wasn't home at the time...got home in the AM and their were some people still their...presume Rose wasn't one of them). She also indicates she got a call a month later from one of the people, who was apologetic saying he wasn't aware she was drugged and thought she wanted it (as that is what Rose and his friends do when they are in LA...they find groupies that want to sleep with all of them). Apparently for a long time Rose had wanted her to do things with him and his boys (and I presume since these were messages...their could actually be evidence backing up that stuff). Again, doesn't prove what she is claiming, but even if the rape part isn't true, I presume the other stuff is probably true and is already damning to his image. Her story for why she didn't go to police isn't exactly uncommon (claims to be from a very christian family and was ashamed). One thing that was weird was she indicated a moment where Rose played in a game (2013), which I don't think happened (August 2013). Rose has already admitted they had a relationship and it was non-exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) Another huge difference between this and the Kane case is Rose's attorneys are calling this story outrageous. Kane's, as far as I have heard, have yet to say he didn't do anything criminal. Edited August 27, 2015 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 27, 2015 -> 01:12 PM) Based upon the case filed...he invited her over to his place and when their, slipped her something in her drink, expecting it to go down at his place. She wasn't interested, took a cab back home, and they followed her to her home and broke in and she has flash memories of what happened and woke up to an awful scene and her roommate (who wasn't home at the time...got home in the AM and their were some people still their...presume Rose wasn't one of them). She also indicates she got a call a month later from one of the people, who was apologetic saying he wasn't aware she was drugged and thought she wanted it (as that is what Rose and his friends do when they are in LA...they find groupies that want to sleep with all of them). Apparently for a long time Rose had wanted her to do things with him and his boys (and I presume since these were messages...their could actually be evidence backing up that stuff). Again, doesn't prove what she is claiming, but even if the rape part isn't true, I presume the other stuff is probably true and is already damning to his image. Her story for why she didn't go to police isn't exactly uncommon (claims to be from a very christian family and was ashamed). Gotcha, yeah that makes a little more sense. Still I can't see this going anywhere 2 years later. No rape kit, no toxicology, no evidence. Did it happen? Maybe, but your gonna be hard pressed to come up with any proof it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 27, 2015 -> 11:17 AM) Another huge difference between this and the Kane case is Rose's attorneys are calling this story outrageous. Kane's, as far as I have heard, have yet to say he didn't do anything criminal. Yeah - Rose's camp seems to be out in front of this. Admit the relationship but said it was consensual and that their is no basis. Also specifically point out that she is on her 3rd attorney and they are advising her because it is a money grab. That said, none of us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 27, 2015 -> 01:23 PM) Yeah - Rose's camp seems to be out in front of this. Admit the relationship but said it was consensual and that their is no basis. Also specifically point out that she is on her 3rd attorney and they are advising her because it is a money grab. That said, none of us know. Yeah, the girl who does the updates on the score or espn, initials JD, is apparently a former lawyer, or studied law, and she said she would be surprised if anyone took this case. I can't see there being anyway she can win regardless of whether or not it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 27, 2015 -> 01:32 PM) Yeah, the girl who does the updates on the score or espn, initials JD, is apparently a former lawyer, or studied law, and she said she would be surprised if anyone took this case. I can't see there being anyway she can win regardless of whether or not it happened. Julie DiCaro. She said it is basically a he said-she said case, and the girl will have to provide proof of this happening. But apparently the girl has some witnesses and texts and such, but not a lot to go on from what we know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 27, 2015 -> 01:10 PM) Let me get this straight, he broke in and slipped something in her drink?? At what point after someone "broke into your house" are you taking a drink? Super fishy. Someone broke into your house and you reported it two years later....But not for criminal purposes, for money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 "17. Rose started asking Jane to perform masturbatory acts while on Skype, which made her uncomfortable. Rose would get upset and berate her for refusing, so Jane stopped Skyping with him. a. When Jane confided in her friends about her discomfort with his request, they told her that it was normal for couples to do that. Jane began to believe that there was something wrong with the prudish way she was raised. Jane was brought up in a traditional, religious household where a woman should have sex with only one person - her spouse. She had not masturbated before and thought only guys did it and coudl not imagine herself doing it." Riiiiiiiiighhhhhhttt. Innocent little princess who just happens to start f***ing an NBA player. So pure and innocent i'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 27, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) "17. Rose started asking Jane to perform masturbatory acts while on Skype, which made her uncomfortable. Rose would get upset and berate her for refusing, so Jane stopped Skyping with him. a. When Jane confided in her friends about her discomfort with his request, they told her that it was normal for couples to do that. Jane began to believe that there was something wrong with the prudish way she was raised. Jane was brought up in a traditional, religious household where a woman should have sex with only one person - her spouse. She had not masturbated before and thought only guys did it and coudl not imagine herself doing it." Riiiiiiiiighhhhhhttt. Innocent little princess who just happens to start f***ing an NBA player. So pure and innocent i'm sure. This just keeps getting stranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I am sure Addidas has lots of attorney's seeing if they can find a contractual breach and get out of paying him the remainder of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Kyrie might be out until January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 27, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) Kyrie might be out until January They'll be alright with Mo Williams. Lighter workload could be good for Irving anyway. Edited August 27, 2015 by Jordan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 this has just been a very depressing summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 27, 2015 -> 02:07 PM) Yeah...that sounds really bad. No idea what kind of proof exists but I presume she has a lot of the messages that go with that stuff. I was going to say, one reason I would never say never (aside from the fact that we don't know Rose) is that he doesn't exactly strike you as someone who surrounds himself with the best and the brightest. You would think his brother would have been all over him about stuff like this and would be smarter (since he is the cash train). If rose did this, I hope he loses everything and rots in prison. If he did it, he will not go to prison because the accuser has not pursued criminal charges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 28, 2015 -> 11:22 AM) the accuser has not pursued criminal charges For the record, we don't know for sure that she didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 “In May 2013, according to the lawsuit, the woman said she traveled to Chicago with Rose and that they went to dinner with a friend “at his house after the game he played in ended.” Rose, however, missed the entire the 2012-13 season with an injury and, consequently, did not play in May.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 28, 2015 -> 03:54 PM) “In May 2013, according to the lawsuit, the woman said she traveled to Chicago with Rose and that they went to dinner with a friend “at his house after the game he played in ended.” Rose, however, missed the entire the 2012-13 season with an injury and, consequently, did not play in May.” You'd think the lawyer would fact-check something so simple like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 28, 2015 -> 06:16 PM) You'd think the lawyer would fact-check something so simple like that. That right there can honestly cause the whole thing to fall apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I feel like that's a really minor error in that he almost certainly attended the game and thus came when it ended and she probably didn't know or care whether he was playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 30, 2015 -> 06:53 PM) I feel like that's a really minor error in that he almost certainly attended the game and thus came when it ended and she probably didn't know or care whether he was playing. That was my first thought too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 They shouldn't have said "game he played in", they should have simply said "his game". I suppose it is a little less significant than I originally thought, but it's still something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think the point is it's a pretty easy thing to fact check on a case you know will be scrutinized, silly to miss a detail like that which is so obvious to fact check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 A writer for a small website speculated that the Bulls should trade for Rudy Gay. That led to all these Facebook/Twitter posts reading "BREAKING: Bulls pursuing trade for Rudy Gay." My point is, if you see anything like that, don't believe it; it's all speculation. That being said, Gibson and McDermott for Gay- who says no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 with Sacramento's moves I'd like to see if we could make it more favorable to bulls. I don't want to be the first team with a fair trade with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 08:42 AM) A writer for a small website speculated that the Bulls should trade for Rudy Gay. That led to all these Facebook/Twitter posts reading "BREAKING: Bulls pursuing trade for Rudy Gay." My point is, if you see anything like that, don't believe it; it's all speculation. That being said, Gibson and McDermott for Gay- who says no? Steve (from this forum) once started a rumor that Rose will return sometime in January of the first year he got injured and that blew up lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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