Chris Tannehill/Score trying to make Harrelson look bad...?

[Buehrle>Wood]

I realize I have different tastes than everyone else as I am one of the few supporters of Farmer/DJ, but enough with the love of other broadcasting booths, especially "professional" ones. They are all terrible. Kasper reading acronym stats for 3 hours? Terrible. Scully? Terrible. They are all just filling the void of providing some distracting noise to prevent us from our terrifying thoughts as we watch baseball. Your opinions are stupid.

Vin Scully is dreadfully boring. It's too bad everyone is too kind to tell the old geezer and put him out to pasture.

[Chisoxfn]

I loved Hawk making this comparison of the Sox to the Royals, but because of the broader and more salient point he was trying to make. It doesn't really matter where he came down on which position player was better than which. That's a matter of opinion, and Hawk is entitled to his as is anyone else. I'm sure if we polled everyone at Soxtalk and had them compare the Sox to the Royals, a whole variety of different opinions would result.

 

Hawk's real point, which was quite good, IMO, was that the key to the Royals success is due primarily to how well they execute and do the little things, the fundamentals. In other words, in his view, the Sox on paper were a better team, talent wise, but in actuality, what separates the two teams is how far better the Royals are at running the bases, hitting the cutoff man, etc. And when you watch the two teams play, particularly when its head-to-head, you can easily tell he's "dad gum right"!

One could state that by making that statement, Hawk is pointing the finger at the coaches and others for how poorly we execute?

[iamshack]

Listening to Hawk this year, he has been much more angry and vocal than in years past. He has had some moments where he took the team, players, and even coaches to task.

Really? I think he has toned it down tremendously this year compared to previous years.

[Buehrle>Wood]

Hawk is presumably great at getting children interested in the White Sox and we desperately need that. I hope he stays on forever.

[Soxfest]

Vin Scully is dreadfully boring. It's too bad everyone is too kind to tell the old geezer and put him out to pasture.

I respectfully disagree, I watch MLB package Dodger games just to hear him call the action.

Edited August 14, 2015 by Soxfest

[southsider2k5]

One could state that by making that statement, Hawk is pointing the finger at the coaches and others for how poorly we execute?

 

Exactly. And has done this at various points this year.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

They have been extra pissy since they lost the White Sox broadcast. No big surprise as their entire schtick is this kind of broadcasting. I can't wait for the Sox to move so I can take them off of my dial.

 

I have noticed that on their twitter account, they post updates on the Cubs games as they progress, but don't bother tweeting about during Sox games. I've wondered if that are being whiny about losing the Sox broadcasts and are choosing to ignore them more.

[Kyyle23]

Hawk is presumably great at getting children interested in the White Sox and we desperately need that. I hope he stays on forever.

 

Who presumes that? Kids dont care about Yaz and Hawks golfing career. Whoever presumes this is wrong

[The Gooch]

Hawk is presumably great at getting children interested in the White Sox and we desperately need that. I hope he stays on forever.

 

As someone that grew up listening to Hawk, you can learn a lot about the game by listening to him as a kid. That is worth his occasional ridiculous nonsense comments.

 

In my personal opinion as an adult (kind of), the entertainment value he provides is worth his ridiculous comments and his depressing tone of voice when things aren't going well. Sure he roots for the Sox, but he is a home broadcaster, I don't understand why people are so against that. He isn't on ESPN or Fox, he is on the CSN, being watched by Sox fans. Stone is there for the great baseball insight. I will miss Hawk when he is gone. For all his flaws, he is just fun to listen to as a Sox fan.

[Buehrle>Wood]

Who presumes that? Kids dont care about Yaz and Hawks golfing career. Whoever presumes this is wrong

I presume it because that's how I got into baseball along with my friends. Can't tell you how much fun we had calling our games using every Hawkism in the book. He's similar to Dick Vitale. I may not enjoy them as much now but I think they are important in their respective positions to hopefully draw in a new audience.

[Kyyle23]

I presume it because that's how I got into baseball along with my friends. Can't tell you how much fun we had calling our games using every Hawkism in the book. He's similar to Dick Vitale. I may not enjoy them as much now but I think they are important in their respective positions to hopefully draw in a new audience.

 

Kids nowadays are not the same as when me and you were kids.

 

 

And Hawk is not the same now as when we were kids.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

I presume it because that's how I got into baseball along with my friends. Can't tell you how much fun we had calling our games using every Hawkism in the book. He's similar to Dick Vitale. I may not enjoy them as much now but I think they are important in their respective positions to hopefully draw in a new audience.

 

I agree with you. He is a draw for kids because he is a loud cheering fan and they want to cheer and get excited with him. Kids don't care about advanced statistics and actual analysis. They are going to scream and yell at good at bad plays, like Hawk.

 

You think a 10 year old kid is rolling his eyes when Hawk says the Sox are more talented than the Royals, or that Carlos Sanchez is going to be a "real good baseball player for a long time". No. Those kids have no idea how laughably wrong he is. The kids are being grossly misinformed, absolutely, but they are being entertained and having fun.

[bmags]

Scully is terrible now? Umm alright. Cubs booth far superior to Sox booth too.

 

No, it isn't, as I stated, they are terrible.

[3GamesToLove]

I agree with you. He is a draw for kids because he is a loud cheering fan and they want to cheer and get excited with him. Kids don't care about advanced statistics and actual analysis. They are going to scream and yell at good at bad plays, like Hawk.

 

You think a 10 year old kid is rolling his eyes when Hawk says the Sox are more talented than the Royals, or that Carlos Sanchez is going to be a "real good baseball player for a long time". No. Those kids have no idea how laughably wrong he is. The kids are being grossly misinformed, absolutely, but they are being entertained and having fun.

 

Generations of kids growing up on Hawk has led to a lot of misinformed adult fans today.

[3GamesToLove]

No, it isn't, as I stated, they are terrible.

 

Nobody besides (some) Sox fans believes that the Cubs booth is inferior to the Sox.

Edited August 14, 2015 by 3GamesToLove

[Thad Bosley]

One could state that by making that statement, Hawk is pointing the finger at the coaches and others for how poorly we execute?

I absolutely took that to be inferred.

[Panerista]

Hawk deserves every piece of criticism. He is a complete joke.

[greg775]

Hawk deserves every piece of criticism. He is a complete joke.

How come it seems half our fan base hates our legendary broadcaster? Any team that has a legend seems to embrace their legendary broadcaster but not White Sox fans. Hawk is entertaining, his voice is not grating, he's creative, he's funny, he actually blasts the team that writes his checks (or at least has a great say in his hiring) on occasion unlike all other broadcast crews, he doesn't mock the opponent like other teams crews, he tells good stories, he has good catchphrases but doesn't overuse them (except KC special for some reason). He's great. Why do some people want a plastic, Wink Martendale-voiced homer?

Edited August 15, 2015 by greg775

[Brian]

Hawk is the Wink Martindale homer. You're bass ackwards.

[Quin]

How come it seems half our fan base hates our legendary broadcaster? Any team that has a legend seems to embrace their legendary broadcaster but not White Sox fans. Hawk is entertaining, his voice is not grating, he's creative, he's funny, he actually blasts the team that writes his checks (or at least has a great say in his hiring) on occasion unlike all other broadcast crews, he doesn't mock the opponent like other teams crews, he tells good stories, he has good catchphrases but doesn't overuse them (except KC special for some reason). He's great. Why do some people want a plastic, Wink Martendale-voiced homer?

 

You do realize that Hawk is THE homer in baseball.

 

Sometimes I love it, sometimes I hate it but he is the biggest homer ever.

 

[Rowand44]

How come it seems half our fan base hates our legendary broadcaster? Any team that has a legend seems to embrace their legendary broadcaster but not White Sox fans. Hawk is entertaining, his voice is not grating, he's creative, he's funny, he actually blasts the team that writes his checks (or at least has a great say in his hiring) on occasion unlike all other broadcast crews, he doesn't mock the opponent like other teams crews, he tells good stories, he has good catchphrases but doesn't overuse them (except KC special for some reason). He's great. Why do some people want a plastic, Wink Martendale-voiced homer?

Have you ever actually listened to Hawk?

[Lip Man 1]

To me it's not a question of 'love' or 'hate' Hawk. It's the realization that he's 73 and simply not the same broadcaster that he was 20 years ago. Plus for right or wrong, he's a symbol of the ever unchanging Sox organization that has grown stale and set in their ways as far as how to run a baseball opearation.

 

New blood is needed on the baseball side of things and that includes the broadcasting booths in my opinion.

 

Mark

Edited August 15, 2015 by Lip Man 1

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

To me it's not a question of 'love' or 'hate' Hawk. It's the realization that he's 73 and simply not the same broadcaster that he was 20 years ago. Plus for right or wrong, he's a symbol of the ever unchanging Sox organization that has grown stale and set in their ways as far as how to run a baseball opearation.

 

New blood is needed on the baseball side of things and that includes the broadcasting booths in my opinion.

 

Mark

 

So what you're saying is that if the Sox make any changes it'll be Hawk 1st to go

[Panerista]

How come it seems half our fan base hates our legendary broadcaster? Any team that has a legend seems to embrace their legendary broadcaster but not White Sox fans. Hawk is entertaining, his voice is not grating, he's creative, he's funny, he actually blasts the team that writes his checks (or at least has a great say in his hiring) on occasion unlike all other broadcast crews, he doesn't mock the opponent like other teams crews, he tells good stories, he has good catchphrases but doesn't overuse them (except KC special for some reason). He's great. Why do some people want a plastic, Wink Martendale-voiced homer?

 

Sometimes a good thing can last too long.

 

Hawk doesn't believe in advanced metrics, he says things that are blatantly wrong ("Those days when you raise your own players in the minors are over"...ARE YOU KIDDING ME?), he does not relate to younger fans (for example, no one under 40 knows half his references).

 

It's not hard. WAR is important, not everyone is the next Yaz, Trayce Thompson is not a 30 HR hitter, and he's an absolute bore.

 

On days when Stony is out, the White Sox broadcast is unlistenable to anyone who isn't a simpleton.

[caulfield12]

He has cut back on the golf and golf betting references at least.....they've got some of my money in Hamtramck, although it was pretty funny when he did that with Paciorek.