harkness99 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Is vulnerable. His fast ball when he tries to bury it inside.. a lot of people can turn it around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 If the offense gets him 4 runs nobody cares about the homers just like EJ's homers in KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 08:48 PM) If the offense gets him 4 runs nobody cares about the homers just like EJ's homers in KC. 2 runs early with Indians not playing their two best should have been enough with Sale on the mound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Earlier this season, he didn't throw a slider, and he wasn't anywhere near as good as he was in the middle of the season. Chris Sale needs to throw a slider to be effective. It's obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 03:51 PM) Earlier this season, he didn't throw a slider, and he wasn't anywhere near as good as he was in the middle of the season. Chris Sale needs to throw a slider to be effective. It's obvious. Or develop another pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I've always thought that he should develop a sinker or a splitter like Putnam has. He is prone to the longball sometimes, and throwing an occasional splitter would keep hitters more off balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 He can get away with his fast ball up and away... but when he tries to throw it inside too much. They get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 QUOTE (harkness @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 07:01 PM) He can get away with his fast ball up and away... but when he tries to throw it inside too much. They get him. Did you see how many strikeouts he had today with the inside fastball? /thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 07:17 PM) Did you see how many strikeouts he had today with the inside fastball? /thread. He also gave up a homer or two with the inside fastball, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Three out of the eight batters Sale struck out were on sliders. That said, Sale did not have his best slider but those days happen. I wouldn't read too much into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 07:36 PM) He also gave up a homer or two with the inside fastball, so... He gave up 3 runs, since when does that equate to a bad pitching performance? If the Sox could muster more than 3 hits, maybe Sale would have a chance. Read this Link and tell me he's useless without the slider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Sale should've won today. This lineup needs a few more bats desperately. Tim Anderson can't come soon enough ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 09:31 PM) He gave up 3 runs, since when does that equate to a bad pitching performance? If the Sox could muster more than 3 hits, maybe Sale would have a chance. Read this Link and tell me he's useless without the slider. I don't think anyone said he was "Bad" With his good or decent slider he is dominant as anyone... Without it he good but more vulnerable... like I said in the opening post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Sale got a few K's with the slider but he only used it when he really needed it. The best version of Chris Sale that we see throws the fastball from 95-98 and then mixes it in 90-92, his change is outstanding as well but without the slider hitters and just sit and wait on his fastball and if they guess the location right his velocity helps them out even if they don't put a huge charge into the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 09:31 PM) He gave up 3 runs, since when does that equate to a bad pitching performance? If the Sox could muster more than 3 hits, maybe Sale would have a chance. Read this Link and tell me he's useless without the slider. Seriously, right? The guy gives up 3ER in 7IP without his best slider. Most pitchers would take those numbers on a good day with their best stuff. Some Sox fans have become spoiled by what Sale did during that amazing stretch he had. Talk about making something out of nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I mean, Chris Sale's slider is one of, if not the, most unhittable single pitches in baseball. Take that away and yeah, not as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 09:49 PM) 2 runs early with Indians not playing their two best should have been enough with Sale on the mound You expect a lot. Holding an MLB to just one run is a helluva performance, no matter the opponent IMO. I think 3 runs is a decent outing even for an ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Even though he gave up just 3 runs, I thought it was easily one of his worst starts of the season. He gave up three homers and the Indians hit a lot of line drives right at guys, and the defense made some nice plays behind him. Sale was pretty damn lucky he only had 3 ER at the end of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 This thread exists because of Ryan f***ing Raybrun. God I hate that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 03:45 PM) This thread exists because of Ryan f***ing Raybrun. God I hate that guy. Hahn should trade for him this offseason. Not because he'd be good for the Sox, but just so they won't have to face him anymore. That's got to be like a 2 win swing right there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 09:49 AM) Hahn should trade for him this offseason. Not because he'd be good for the Sox, but just so they won't have to face him anymore. That's got to be like a 2 win swing right there! And just put him on the bench all of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Ryan Raburn has 81 RBI against the White Sox. His next highest RBI total against one team is 25 against the Royals. Raburn also became the first player to hit two homers in a game against Chris Sale. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 QUOTE (harkness @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 07:56 PM) Is vulnerable. His fast ball when he tries to bury it inside.. a lot of people can turn it around. He needs to be traded while his value is still high and before the league catches on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 02:45 PM) This thread exists because of Ryan f***ing Raybrun. God I hate that guy. I hear you brother. There seems to be that one guy out there we can't get past, but they keep pitching to him. I am a bit baffled about the number of homers our pitchers give up though. Our hitters have gone South it seems when it comes to the long ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 10:49 AM) Hahn should trade for him this offseason. Not because he'd be good for the Sox, but just so they won't have to face him anymore. That's got to be like a 2 win swing right there! Ryan Raburn automatically makes any team in the AL Central other than the White Sox 1-2 games better. It's worth the same amount to have him on their roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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