ChiSoxFanMike Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) I would be secretly excited about Alex Gordon, somehow ridding ourselves of Melky and rolling with Gordon/Trayce/Eaton in the outfield. I also recognize it would not be a good idea. But I have outfield seats and that would be fun to watch. How is Alex Gordon than much better than Melky? I know he's a better defender, but that would be reflected in his steep price tag. I'm content with Melky honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 It's the offseason. The only time I can be optimistic. This team needs to make a true splash for Heyward or Puig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 There's gotta be big moves on the horizon. Sox can't roll out Avi,Trayce,Saladino, Sanchez, Flowers, Alexei next year. Big expensive upgrades are coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 10:42 PM) How is Alex Gordon than much better than Melky? I know he's a better defender, but that would be reflected in his steep price tag. I'm content with Melky honestly. Gordon is so much better in every aspect than Melky. He'd be a great addition, but I have a feeling KC brings him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 They definitely aren't going to rebuild. I think they will finally fill that hole at third with a good solution. It's been a revolving door since Crede left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 10:25 PM) I would be secretly excited about Alex Gordon, somehow ridding ourselves of Melky and rolling with Gordon/Trayce/Eaton in the outfield. I also recognize it would not be a good idea. But I have outfield seats and that would be fun to watch. he is one person i have been thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 05:47 PM) There's gotta be big moves on the horizon. Sox can't roll out Avi,Trayce,Saladino, Sanchez, Flowers, Alexei next year. Big expensive upgrades are coming. Everyone is saying this, but I don't know who we could realistically get without having to trade someone like Quintana, which would in turn (potentially) not make the move an upgrade. Sadly, the FA market is very unattractive overall this year, with the exception of starting pitchers, although we're pretty set there; our starting staff finished with the #1 fWAR in the AL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 05:22 PM) How about Montas and Micah Johnson for Derek Norris? I'm a huge Derek Norris fan. Thanks for bringing him up. Dont think we would need to send Montas for Norris. I think Beck and Johnson could get Norris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 10:52 PM) I'm a huge Derek Norris fan. Thanks for bringing him up. Dont think we would need to send Montas for Norris. I think Beck and Johnson could get Norris. I would imagine Preller would want more back for Norris given they gave up a good pitcher for him (Hahn). Who knows, maybe the Padres love Danish. The Padres need help on the infield, as Gyorko was moved to SS due to Amarista being god awful. They have been rumored as a team that might go after Ian Desmond. Edited October 5, 2015 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 05:55 PM) I would imagine Preller would want more back for Norris given they gave up a good pitcher for him (Hahn). Who knows, maybe the Padres love Danish. Preller also overpaid for Norris because he (like us) thought he had a good club on his hands. Danish for Norris straight up I could see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Derek Norris would suck on the White Sox. Edited October 5, 2015 by Jose Abreu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 10:56 PM) Preller also overpaid for Norris because he (like us) thought he had a good club on his hands. Danish for Norris straight up I could see. Norris was a top 5 catcher in terms of WAR at age of 26. I just imagine it will take more than a non top 150 prospect like Danish to get him. Other teams needing a catcher could surely offer more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Danish and Beck for Norris. Get 'er done, Ricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 04:47 PM) There's gotta be big moves on the horizon. Sox can't roll out Avi,Trayce,Saladino, Sanchez, Flowers, Alexei next year. Big expensive upgrades are coming. Maybe we'll see. Depends a lot on how season ticket sales go and I wouldn't think that's going to go over well. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 12:11 AM) Maybe we'll see. Depends a lot on how season ticket sales go and I wouldn't think that's going to go over well. Mark esp after this past season rounding success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 06:02 PM) Norris was a top 5 catcher in terms of WAR at age of 26. I just imagine it will take more than a non top 150 prospect like Danish to get him. Other teams needing a catcher could surely offer more than that. I'd do Danish and Johnson for Norris and Jacob Nix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 06:28 PM) It's silly to think MLB player X will suck because he switched teams to the Sox. Again, you're just using what has happened recently as a basis to justify your thoughts on the future. It's not that we think any given player will suck because we acquire him. It is that a player who hits for a lower average than people think (Frazier) or is due to decline because of his age (Zobrist) will not play nearly as well as he used to if he came here. That's not to say it would only happen here. I believe that Zobrist will no longer produce at his current level on any team, and Frazier would be a right-handed Adam Dunn on any AL team. While what happened recently with us and old/NL acquisitions is hopefully an anomaly, I do think that it, at the very least, should teach us to be very skeptical of potential moves for players who have baggage or warning signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I'd have no problem acquiring Frazier if he wasn't going to be a FA soon. I also think the Reds have no use for an established star like Quintana, as they won't even try to compete if they get rid of Frazier and are left with Votto, Bruce and their returning injured guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 06:52 PM) I'd have no problem acquiring Frazier if he wasn't going to be a FA soon. I also think the Reds have no use for an established star like Quintana, as they won't even try to compete if they get rid of Frazier and are left with Votto, Bruce and their returning injured guys. If Sox acquire Frazier, they would have control of him for 2 years. After that 1 year, I really think they would extend him. Frazier is only making 6 million next year..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 6, 2015 -> 12:54 AM) If Sox acquire Frazier, they would have control of him for 2 years. After that 1 year, I really think they would extend him. Frazier is only making 6 million next year..... Which would make it worth it to me, as you get him cheap this year and if the team implodes again, you have a trade chip. I don't fault Frazier for his awful second half, as that Reds team was dead. Has to be demoralizing getting destroyed every game with a rookie pitcher on the mound and the dumbest manager alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 06:56 PM) Which would make it worth it to me, as you get him cheap this year and if the team implodes again, you have a trade chip. I don't fault Frazier for his awful second half, as that Reds team was dead. Has to be demoralizing getting destroyed every game with a rookie pitcher on the mound and the dumbest manager alive. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 04:53 PM) All offseason we're going to hear anyone 30+ or anyone from the NL "would suck on the Sox." The season has been done for one day and I have already heard it multiple times. All because it happened a couple of times. Plenty of players make the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 07:23 PM) All because it happened a couple of times. Plenty of players make the switch. Also, Dunn outside of 2011 wasn't even that bad. In 2012 he had an OPS over .800, and while he certainly wasn't worth the money in 2013 or 2014, he was still an above-average hitter those years (107 wRC+ and 113 wRC+). Edited October 6, 2015 by OmarComing25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Dunn was a freaking DH, at 113 wRC+ would be good for 9th out of 10 DHs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 04:47 PM) Jonathan LuCroy for Micah Johnson and Avi Garcia is not even close to real. To be fair, it was plus Trey as well, but yeah, still a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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