oldsox Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:38 PM) his numbers away from Coors are terrible. There are reasons for this. Altitude at home screws up hitters when they go on the road. So I'm told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:14 PM) LaRoche, Montas, Micah Johnson, and Beck for CarGo and Lemahieu? There is absolutely no chance that the Rockies would accept that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) I would do that, but I don't see what interest they would have in LaRoche, other than just not having to send over any money in the deal I guess. They do have a hole at 1B. LaRoche has had more success in the NL, and on a 1 year deal, if he does well, they can flip him at the deadline. And like you said, it balances out the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:24 PM) They do have a hole at 1B. LaRoche has had more success in the NL, and on a 1 year deal, if he does well, they can flip him at the deadline. And like you said, it balances out the money. It balances out the money, but no team in baseball would have interest in making Adam LaRoche their starting 1B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Adam LaRoche probably wouldn't do any better at 1st for Colorado than Ben Paulsen, whose costs is about 3% of LaRoche. Edited November 12, 2015 by Jose Abreu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:25 PM) It balances out the money, but no team in baseball would have interest in making Adam LaRoche their starting 1B. I don't think the Rockies are in win-now mode. Unless they decide to play a rookie at first, LaRoche for one year isn't bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:28 PM) I don't think the Rockies are in win-now mode. Unless they decide to play a rookie at first, LaRoche for one year isn't bad. Exactly my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:24 PM) They do have a hole at 1B. LaRoche has had more success in the NL, and on a 1 year deal, if he does well, they can flip him at the deadline. And like you said, it balances out the money. But if they are going to be selling off assets and rebuilding, why would the take on $13M of a dead money and take up a position from a young player who could use the experience? I am willing to bet they would rather just send over $10M than take LaRoche and his $13M. Unless they truly think they can flip him in July for a couple of prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Would you guys do a Frankie Montas and filler for CarGo, Q for Andrelton Simmons at SS, and sign one of Upton or Cespedes?? Edited November 12, 2015 by nitetrain8601 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:32 PM) But if they are going to be selling off assets and rebuilding, why would the take on $13M of a dead money and take up a position from a young player who could use the experience? I am willing to bet they would rather just send over $10M than take LaRoche and his $13M. Unless they truly think they can flip him in July for a couple of prospects. Well, I just looked at their prospect list, and they don't have 1B prospects unless they use Willin Rosario or 28 year old Ben Paulson there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:32 PM) But if they are going to be selling off assets and rebuilding, why would the take on $13M of a dead money and take up a position from a young player who could use the experience? I am willing to bet they would rather just send over $10M than take LaRoche and his $13M. Unless they truly think they can flip him in July for a couple of prospects. We'll if they want to give us close to LaRoche's salary, fine. Makes it easier to cut him when he's not hitting in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:35 PM) Would you guys do a Frankie Montas and filler for CarGo, Q for Andrelton Simmons at SS, and sign one of Upton or Cespedes?? I wouldn't do any of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Owen Schoenfeld @The_Xsport 44m44 minutes ago @ChiSoxraBBit @gastelumcharlie Saw this like an hour ago, the guy won't respond to me. Always thought Montas made sense in a deal though 0 retweets 2 likes Reply Retweet Like 2 More JOSE C GASTELUM @gastelumcharlie 31m31 minutes ago @The_Xsport @ChiSoxraBBit rumors always gonna be rumors, A García could be at that Deal too. 0 retweets 1 like Reply Retweet Like 1 More Owen Schoenfeld @The_Xsport 26m26 minutes ago @gastelumcharlie @ChiSoxraBBit I guess what I'm asking is if you have actually heard that these discussions are taking place. 0 retweets 1 like Reply Retweet Like 1 More JOSE C GASTELUM @gastelumcharlie 22m22 minutes ago @The_Xsport @ChiSoxraBBit /if you r asking me if this deal its a sure deal the answer is No. If the Q is if I heard something, of course Yes 0 retweets 0 likes Reply Retweet Like More Owen Schoenfeld @The_Xsport 19m19 minutes ago @gastelumcharlie @ChiSoxraBBit Wow. Thanks for sharing then. When Rockies exposed preference for power pitchers, I knew they'd like Montas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Updated mock Extend Qualifying Offer to SP Jeff Samardzija- he declines, Sox get a comp pick Decline option on SS Alexei Ramirez Resign: RP Matt Albers 1 year/2 million Sign via Free Agency: SP Trevor Cahill 1 year/5 million Trades: White Sox trade CF Trayce Thompson and SP Erik Johnson to the Marlins for OF Marcell Ozuna and UTIL Derek Dietrich White Sox trade 2B Micah Johnson and 1B/3B Nick Delmonico to the Padres for C Derek Norris White Sox trade RF Avi Garcia, SP Frankie Montas, and 3B Trey Michalczewski to the Reds for Todd Frazier Rotation/Bullpen: SP Chris Sale (L) SP Jose Quintana (L) SP Carlos Rodon (L) SP Trevor Cahill SP John Danks (Until Fulmer is ready) RP Scott Carroll/Jacob Turner RP Dan Jennings (L) RP Jake Petricka RP Zach Duke (L) RP Matt Albers RP Nate Jones CP David Robertson Lineup: CF Adam Eaton (L) 2B Derek Dietrich (L) 1B Jose Abreu 3B Todd Frazier LF Melky Cabrera (S) RF Marcell Ozuna DH Adam LaRoche (L) C Derek Norris SS Tyler Saladino (Bridge until Anderson is ready) Bench: OF J.B Shuck C Tyler Flowers 2B/SS Carlos Sanchez 1B/3B Mike Olt Thoughts? A lot of trades and no major signings. We trade some prospects to get some core pieces (imo), yet we get 3 picks in the top 50-55 for the next draft. Edited November 12, 2015 by SoxPride18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I don't think that's nearly enough for Frazier. Other teams interested in power/3B could offer way more. I also think Micah Johnson wouldn't be enough for Norris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Anyone trying get ideas for sox is over Source: Andrelton Simmons has been traded to the Angels. #Braves https://twitter.com/JesseSanchezMLB/status/...949654950273024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 05:40 PM) Anyone trying get ideas for sox is over Source: Andrelton Simmons has been traded to the Angels. #Braves https://twitter.com/JesseSanchezMLB/status/...949654950273024 Damn, I would've given the Braves Montas, Adams, Danish, and someone else for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 06:48 PM) Damn, I would've given the Braves Montas, Adams, Danish, and someone else for him. Naw I'm good. If the braves are giving him up then I don't want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 12:48 AM) Damn, I would've given the Braves Montas, Adams, Danish, and someone else for him. Way too much pitching to give up for someone that won't help your offense much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 05:48 PM) Damn, I would've given the Braves Montas, Adams, Danish, and someone else for him. Yeah that's ugly. No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 05:56 PM) Way too much pitching to give up for someone that won't help your offense much. What about his defense? He's probably the best defensive shortstop in all of baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 12:02 AM) What about his defense? He's probably the best defensive shortstop in all of baseball. Yes, and as much as the Sox need defensive help, they need offensive help more. Acquiring him would have used up any resource they had to improve the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Good trade for LAA. I think he would've been a good get for the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 05:56 PM) Way too much pitching to give up for someone that won't help your offense much. Not only won't he help the O, he will hurt the O. Even our O. He'd be great if you can rake everywhere else. Listening to the MLB network, some Sox fan suggested Q for Castro. I thought "who is this dingbat?". And then both Bowden and Stern said it would be a bad deal for the Cubs. Many, everyone drinks Theo-aid. Edited November 13, 2015 by GreenSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 04:35 PM) Would you guys do a Frankie Montas and filler for CarGo, Q for Andrelton Simmons at SS, and sign one of Upton or Cespedes?? No Are you kidding?? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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