My/Your Off Season Plan

[LDF]

If Desmond really gets somewhere in the 15M+ range annually, Alexei's 10M doesn't sound so bad at all. Especially since the Sox have more pressing needs than SS.

 

in actuality, i wouldn't put it past his camp if Desmond gets that QO, he might accept it.

[GGajewski18]

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 2m2 minutes ago

Orioles intend to extend a qualifying offer to Matt Wieters, not surprisingly. He'll be a one-of-a-kind item in a limited catching market.

 

Wieters is off limits to me now

[Dunt]

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 2m2 minutes ago

Orioles intend to extend a qualifying offer to Matt Wieters, not surprisingly. He'll be a one-of-a-kind item in a limited catching market.

 

Wieters is off limits to me now

 

Didnt want him before, want him even less now

[GreenSox]

Didnt want him before, want him even less now

yep

[BlackSox13]

in actuality, i wouldn't put it past his camp if Desmond gets that QO, he might accept it.

Certainly possible. To be honest, I'd rather have Alexei at 2/3 the cost of Desmond.

[caulfield12]

The Cubs will likely get one of those pitchers (top five free agent pitchers). Less likely, they might trade one of their good young players (Javier Baez?) in a package for a top starting pitcher. It will be interesting to see if the Chicago White Sox even consider trading Chris Sale, or if the Oakland A's will listen to offers for Sonny Gray.

 

Tim Kurkjian, espn.com

[Bob Sacamano]

The Cubs will likely get one of those pitchers (top five free agent pitchers). Less likely, they might trade one of their good young players (Javier Baez?) in a package for a top starting pitcher. It will be interesting to see if the Chicago White Sox even consider trading Chris Sale, or if the Oakland A's will listen to offers for Sonny Gray.

 

Tim Kurkjian, espn.com

 

I've said it many times on here before and I'll say it again, not until July 2017 at the earliest.

Edited November 3, 2015 by soxfan2014

[Bigsoxhurt35]

Sale wouldn't even be talked about it unless it started with a Bryant type starting package. His value is sky high.

 

I do wonder what you could get. Interesting nonetheless.

[Flash Tizzle]

The Cubs will likely get one of those pitchers (top five free agent pitchers). Less likely, they might trade one of their good young players (Javier Baez?) in a package for a top starting pitcher. It will be interesting to see if the Chicago White Sox even consider trading Chris Sale, or if the Oakland A's will listen to offers for Sonny Gray.

 

Tim Kurkjian, espn.com

Yeah...... Javier Baez is not going to be involved as a centerpiece of any top starting pitcher on our team. Atleast I hope to hell not

[Chicago White Sox]

Yeah...... Javier Baez is not going to be involved as a centerpiece of any top starting pitcher on our team. Atleast I hope to hell not

According to Dick Allen, Theo wouldn't trade Baez straight up for Quintana, but maybe if we're lucky they'd do a Baez for Sale swap?

[GreenSox]

Certainly possible. To be honest, I'd rather have Alexei at 2/3 the cost of Desmond.

I'd rather have Saladino at 1/20th of the cost of either.

[GGajewski18]

I'd rather have Saladino at 1/20th of the cost of either.

 

I agree. I want no part of Desmond.

[greg775]

Wouldn't it be cool if Mr. Hahn altered about 70 percent of the entire Sox 2016 roster?

1B-Abreu.

2B-Zobrist.

SS-new guy

3B - new guy

LF - new guy

CF - Eaton

RF - new guy to platoon with Trayce.

C - new guy

P - Sale, Q, Rodon, new guy new guy.

Bullpen - Robertson, new guy times nine.

DH - new guy.

 

Please give us a new ballclub, Mr. Hahn even if it has to be very young.

 

p.s. Little surprised to see The Grandy Man is halfway thru a four-year deal that pays him 15 million a year. That's a lot of cash for the aging Grandyman, though I've always wanted him in a Sox uniform. We can't afford that so no reason for me to dream of a deal involving Grandy for Danks and Beckham and a Class A non-prospect prospect.

Edited November 3, 2015 by greg775

[GreenSox]

The real problem with the Cubs/Sox trade proposals is that the Cubs don't have what the Sox need.

Sox need an athletic defensive outfielder, young C and 3B. The Cubs have none of the above to trade.

 

Oh sure the Sox could use a DH. But in this day and age, you need one who has a position. And the Cubs aren't trading Schwarber anyway.

 

 

[bmags]

Is there a shortstop or 2b the Cubs could trade us that wouldn't be an upgrade? Why are we having such hero worship to cement our average players as starters.

[BlackSox13]

Wouldn't it be cool if Mr. Hahn altered about 70 percent of the entire Sox 2016 roster?

1B-Abreu.

2B-Zobrist.

SS-new guy

3B - new guy

LF - new guy

CF - Eaton

RF - new guy to platoon with Trayce.

C - new guy

P - Sale, Q, Rodon, new guy new guy.

Bullpen - Robertson, new guy times nine.

DH - new guy.

 

Please give us a new ballclub, Mr. Hahn even if it has to be very young.

 

p.s. Little surprised to see The Grandy Man is halfway thru a four-year deal that pays him 15 million a year. That's a lot of cash for the aging Grandyman, though I've always wanted him in a Sox uniform. We can't afford that so no reason for me to dream of a deal involving Grandy for Danks and Beckham and a Class A non-prospect prospect.

Where was your clamoring for Granderson BEFORE the playoffs? Mr.Hindsight.

 

BTW, Beckham is a FA and why would the Mets want Danks when they have more than enough pitching that is better than Danks?

[Quin]

Is there a shortstop or 2b the Cubs could trade us that wouldn't be an upgrade? Why are we having such hero worship to cement our average players as starters.

 

Castro?

[greg775]

Where was your clamoring for Granderson BEFORE the playoffs? Mr.Hindsight.

 

BTW, Beckham is a FA and why would the Mets want Danks when they have more than enough pitching that is better than Danks?

With all due respect, some of the veteran board members can back me up that I've been a Grandy guy in the past.

[Eminor3rd]

With all due respect, some of the veteran board members can back me up that I've been a Grandy guy in the past.

 

I back greg in this. He loves every player that Hawk loves.

[caulfield12]

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25361575

 

First of many articles predicting the offseason.

 

Puig has 7-8 teams listed as trade possibilities and not one of them is the Sox.

 

 

 

Btw, signing Granderson two tears ago when his splits were so pronounced and Yankee Stadium short porch aided seemed a bit nuts...felt like he was on a big decline. That said, the current numbers are coming from the relatively weaker NL.

 

Cueto is projected at $40 million and one year less than when he was traded to KC. Royals predicted to keep Gordon but not Zobrist as well.

Edited November 3, 2015 by caulfield12

[YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES!]

The Cubs will likely get one of those pitchers (top five free agent pitchers). Less likely, they might trade one of their good young players (Javier Baez?) in a package for a top starting pitcher. It will be interesting to see if the Chicago White Sox even consider trading Chris Sale, or if the Oakland A's will listen to offers for Sonny Gray.

 

Tim Kurkjian, espn.com

I would seriously cry if Baez would be the main prospect going back to the Sox in a Sale or Quintana trade.

 

He has power, but he's essentially Dayan Viciedo 2.0 that plays the infield.

[caulfield12]

Quintana/Adams for....the steal deal of the century (love those 4-6 for 1-2 plans they come up with) mlbtraderumors

 

 

Cubs get a solid pitcher in quintana and a potential stud in spencer who has a ways to go before making his MLB debut seeing as he’s only like 19 years old (at LEAST 2 years away…. more likely 3-4). Sox get the young position prospects they DESPERATELY need. They get a better SS in Castro over having to keep worse Alexei Ramirez…. regardless what Sox fans say. Castro’s down year this year is not too far off a typical Ramirez year. They also get a HR masher in Vogelbach who has superb plate discipline to play 1B/DH with Abreu. They get a solid hitting catching prospect in Zagunis. They get a gold glove in waiting in Almora who scouts say could hit about .280 or better and develop into a 20 HR hitter…… especially playing in US Cellular. And I’ll throw in pierce johnson as a toss in. Projects to be a 3-4 starter if he pans out. Cough up 1 ML pitcher and a pitching prospect for 4 players who could address almost all the Sox weaknesses on offense within 2 years. It at least gives you positional prospect hope. Looked at the top position prospects the Sox have listed on their website……. it’s pretty ugly. This hypothetical trade is more than fair imo.

 

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/10/offs...hite-sox-6.html

[SCCWS]

Quintana/Adams for....the steal deal of the century (love those 4-6 for 1-2 plans they come up with) mlbtraderumors

 

 

Cubs get a solid pitcher in quintana and a potential stud in spencer who has a ways to go before making his MLB debut seeing as he’s only like 19 years old (at LEAST 2 years away…. more likely 3-4). Sox get the young position prospects they DESPERATELY need. They get a better SS in Castro over having to keep worse Alexei Ramirez…. regardless what Sox fans say. Castro’s down year this year is not too far off a typical Ramirez year. They also get a HR masher in Vogelbach who has superb plate discipline to play 1B/DH with Abreu. They get a solid hitting catching prospect in Zagunis. They get a gold glove in waiting in Almora who scouts say could hit about .280 or better and develop into a 20 HR hitter…… especially playing in US Cellular. And I’ll throw in pierce johnson as a toss in. Projects to be a 3-4 starter if he pans out. Cough up 1 ML pitcher and a pitching prospect for 4 players who could address almost all the Sox weaknesses on offense within 2 years. It at least gives you positional prospect hope. Looked at the top position prospects the Sox have listed on their website……. it’s pretty ugly. This hypothetical trade is more than fair imo.

 

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/10/offs...hite-sox-6.html

 

Not good enough. Q is a top 15 pitcher in baseball. If you trade him, which I think they should, you need to get back 2 MLB ready players + prospect(s). At least one of the MLB ready players needs to play a premier position--C-SS-CF or be a top 20 player in baseball.

[Jose Abreu]

Oh sure the Sox could use a DH. But in this day and age, you need one who has a position. And the Cubs aren't trading Schwarber anyway.

I think they might trade Schwarber. It's obvious that he's a DH playing in a league that doesn't have one.

[Eminor3rd]

Quintana/Adams for....the steal deal of the century (love those 4-6 for 1-2 plans they come up with) mlbtraderumors

 

 

Cubs get a solid pitcher in quintana and a potential stud in spencer who has a ways to go before making his MLB debut seeing as he’s only like 19 years old (at LEAST 2 years away…. more likely 3-4). Sox get the young position prospects they DESPERATELY need. They get a better SS in Castro over having to keep worse Alexei Ramirez…. regardless what Sox fans say. Castro’s down year this year is not too far off a typical Ramirez year. They also get a HR masher in Vogelbach who has superb plate discipline to play 1B/DH with Abreu. They get a solid hitting catching prospect in Zagunis. They get a gold glove in waiting in Almora who scouts say could hit about .280 or better and develop into a 20 HR hitter…… especially playing in US Cellular. And I’ll throw in pierce johnson as a toss in. Projects to be a 3-4 starter if he pans out. Cough up 1 ML pitcher and a pitching prospect for 4 players who could address almost all the Sox weaknesses on offense within 2 years. It at least gives you positional prospect hope. Looked at the top position prospects the Sox have listed on their website……. it’s pretty ugly. This hypothetical trade is more than fair imo.

 

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/10/offs...hite-sox-6.html