Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 09:23 AM) Nope. If Kershaw pitched in the AL, there's no way he'd have multiple seasons with an ERA under 2. He'd still be better than Quintana, though. Kershaw is the best pitcher in baseball. It's not really that close either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 09:23 AM) Nope. If Kershaw pitched in the AL, there's no way he'd have multiple seasons with an ERA under 2. He'd still be better than Quintana, though. lmao you are nuts. Kershaw is crazy dominant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 11:58 AM) lmao you are nuts. Kershaw is crazy dominant Kershaw is clearly the best pitcher in baseball, but I don't think it's at all crazy to suggest he wouldn't have an ERA under 2 in the AL. I very much doubt that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 12:02 PM) I don't know about deferred money. Are we still paying Konerko? Buyouts happened in '15 not '16. As far as Turner and the other spots I made it pretty clear I was saying X amount of players costed Y amount of money. I know it wasn't perfect but more of where we are at with the most likely candidates on the roster. Apparently we still owe Peavy $1M, plus $1M buyouts for Emilio & Alexei. Wasn't disagreeing with anything you said, just had gone through the payroll exercise last night prior before seeing your post and figured I'd mention where we stood in case anyone was curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 12:02 PM) I don't know about deferred money. Are we still paying Konerko? Buyouts happened in '15 not '16. As far as Turner and the other spots I made it pretty clear I was saying X amount of players costed Y amount of money. I know it wasn't perfect but more of where we are at with the most likely candidates on the roster. I think Paulie gets $1 million a year for 5 or 6 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 12:02 PM) I don't know about deferred money. Are we still paying Konerko? Buyouts happened in '15 not '16. As far as Turner and the other spots I made it pretty clear I was saying X amount of players costed Y amount of money. I know it wasn't perfect but more of where we are at with the most likely candidates on the roster. I think the buyout figure occurs the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 10:03 AM) Kershaw is the best pitcher in baseball. It's not really that close either. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 11:58 AM) lmao you are nuts. Kershaw is crazy dominant See the comment below. QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 12:09 PM) Kershaw is clearly the best pitcher in baseball, but I don't think it's at all crazy to suggest he wouldn't have an ERA under 2 in the AL. I very much doubt that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Comments all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 12:45 PM) I am sure they saw that comment above. Great. My point is that I know Kershaw is the best pitcher in baseball (and obviously better than Quintana), but I don't think I'm "nuts" for thinking that his ERA would be 2 or higher if he had to face a DH instead of a pitcher once every 9 batters. He'd still be the best, and his ERA probably would be close to 2, but it would surely increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Due to the DH and not facing a pitcher for 5-7 innings, Kershaws ERa would go up. It would be interesting to see him in the AL. Not sure what his interleague ERA is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 01:35 PM) Due to the DH and not facing a pitcher for 5-7 innings, Kershaws ERa would go up. It would be interesting to see him in the AL. Not sure what his interleague ERA is. Interleague 2.32 era 0.951 WHIP. Career 2.43 ERA 1.033 WHIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I am surprised you all view Jose's opinion as controversial. I have zero doubt that Kershaw would have a higher ERA in AL. Doesn't mean he wouldn't still be top 5 in ERA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 12:58 PM) Great. My point is that I know Kershaw is the best pitcher in baseball (and obviously better than Quintana), but I don't think I'm "nuts" for thinking that his ERA would be 2 or higher if he had to face a DH instead of a pitcher once every 9 batters. He'd still be the best, and his ERA probably would be close to 2, but it would surely increase. I had more of an issue with you calling him overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 A lot of White Sox announcements are due. The assistant hitting coach seems to be filled but not yet official. The bench coach, is Steve Stone returning? Who is the PBP guy for home games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 03:08 PM) A lot of White Sox announcements are due. The assistant hitting coach seems to be filled but not yet official. The bench coach, is Steve Stone returning? Who is the PBP guy for home games? I expect a busy weekend or beginning of next week at least with these announcements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 02:07 PM) I had more of an issue with you calling him overrated Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 What happened to Doug Fister last year? Is he a bounce back candidate or did he wreck his arm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 02:19 PM) What happened to Doug Fister last year? Is he a bounce back candidate or did he wreck his arm? Fister? I barely knew her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 03:21 PM) Fister? I barely knew her. you dog you I'd be ok with Fister on a short deal. He pitched well for Detroit a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I would love Fister, especially if we could get rid of danks Sale Quintana Rodon Fister Johnson Very solid rotation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'll be very interested to see is Iwakuma gets a QO tomorrow. If he doesn't, he would be an interesting 3 year deal guy which would allow the Sox to trade Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I was thinking more so if they were to trade Q. A lot of hit or miss with a back end of Fister-Danks-EJ, but if you can get a haul for Q it's something you have to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 04:06 PM) I'll be very interested to see is Iwakuma gets a QO tomorrow. If he doesn't, he would be an interesting 3 year deal guy which would allow the Sox to trade Q. He will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) Interleague 2.32 era 0.951 WHIP. Career 2.43 ERA 1.033 WHIP But half of those IL starts are at home, where the pitcher has to bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 5, 2015 -> 03:12 PM) He will. I dont know, the Mariners are in a tough spot in needing to contend right now without a lot of pieces. Their payroll is already at $95 or so without him, so not sure they want to throw almost $16 MM at him next year. You're probably right, as even the Angels are looking to offer David Freese a QO, just seems like a bad situation for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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