Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 10:38 AM) I think Quintana + can get Arenado. Absolutely. Arenado is 24, put 4.5 fWAR and had a wRc of 119. He has 3 arb years left. He's a stud but he will not re-sign with Colorado and Q is also a stud on a great contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 09:27 AM) Could Nobuhiro Matsuda be an option at 3B? He's already 32 but has put up nice numbers in Japan. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/11/nobu...eda-timing.html Here's one of his homers: Very interesting. You'd have to think a 32 year old who hasn't played outside Japan would come very cheap. Would love to explore that. Also he does not require a posting fee. So even cheaper. Edited November 10, 2015 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 11:49 AM) Quintana would instantly become their #1, plus I'm sure Sox would add some top prospects to go along with it. They aren't exactly going anywhere with that pitching staff. But they create a hole as big as the one they fill. I'm sure they want Quintana, but they're going to want to trade prospects, not other stars they already need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 10:49 AM) Quintana would instantly become their #1, plus I'm sure Sox would add some top prospects to go along with it. They aren't exactly going anywhere with that pitching staff. Why would the Sox add top prospects? Arenado is the kind of guy I'd trade Q for. I'm not adding top prospects though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) Could Nobuhiro Matsuda be an option at 3B? He's already 32 but has put up nice numbers in Japan. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/11/nobu...eda-timing.html Here's one of his homers: i am not decided on that, how old is laroche last yr??? maybe a 1 yr with options for 2yr. the sox needs to get some pieces via fa. they have to in order to compete esp for the media in chi. granted they will never over come the other team, but they can not fall too far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 11:36 AM) Not straight up. Sale has more value. Without a doubt I was just stating that would be the more realistic trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 We want cost controlled players. Bats to be specific. Arenado would be perfect. Would give us our 3B we've lacked since Crede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 12:15 PM) But they create a hole as big as the one they fill. I'm sure they want Quintana, but they're going to want to trade prospects, not other stars they already need. They also have a 3B waiting in the wings. McMahon at AA IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) The Rockies aren't going to trade Arenado unless you dramatically overpay. Can we stop the madness? It isn't happening. He's probably the new face of the franchise. Edited November 10, 2015 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 11:30 AM) They also have a 3B waiting in the wings. McMahon at AA IIRC. Good - trade for him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 05:31 PM) The Rockies aren't going to trade Arenado unless you dramatically overpay. Can we stop the madness? It isn't happening. He's probably the new face of the franchise. killjoy. but with ref to McMahon their other 3b prospect. if anything they would trade him instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 /plan sign all the heros /end plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 11:31 AM) The Rockies aren't going to trade Arenado unless you dramatically overpay. Can we stop the madness? It isn't happening. He's probably the new face of the franchise. You're speaking to deaf ears my man. Some just will not let go of the Xbox fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 05:56 PM) You're speaking to deaf ears my man. Some just will not let go of the Xbox fantasy. i never played zbox.... to complicated for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 GM Meetings version: -Extend Samardzija QO, he rejects it -Decline Alexei's option -Resign Albers -Sign Nobuhiro Matsuda to 3 yr, $36 MM deal -Trade Fulmer, Danish, Trey, and low level arm for Jonathan Lucroy CF Eaton C Lucroy 1B Abreu DH LaRoche LF Cabrera 3B Matsuda RF Thompson 2B Sanchez SS Saladino BE A. Garcia BE Flowers BE Johnson BE L. Garcia SP Sale SP Quintana SP Rodon SP Johnson SP Danks CL Robertson SU Jones SU Montas RP Duke RP Petricka RP Turner RP Albers Anderson comes up and takes over at SS as soon as he's ready, Saladino takes Leury's utility spot on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 11:54 AM) killjoy. but with ref to McMahon their other 3b prospect. if anything they would trade him instead. This is entirely dependent on whether or not the Rockies think they are are in their championship window right now, or in a couple years. They just traded Tulo, Reyes is under a lot of fire with the law right now, they have been rumored to be trading Cargo for a while now. If they aren't ready to win now, then they may as well dump their biggest asset for a #1 starter if they have a guy to replace that asset in 2 years anyway. Not that McMahon will be as good as Arenado, but they Q is under team control longer than Arenado, and will be cheaper than Arenado once Nolan hits arb. And Q in the NL would likely improve his value in the event they decide to trade him again in 2 or 3 years anyway. I don't necessarily think this trade lines up perfectly, but I can see the rationale behind the Rockies doing it. If you think this is a video game trade, then it's clearly because you undervalue Quintana immensely. He's a top 15-20 starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 12:31 PM) The Rockies aren't going to trade Arenado unless you dramatically overpay. Can we stop the madness? It isn't happening. He's probably the new face of the franchise. It's something to banter about. I can dream can't I? Let a sleeping dog lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 01:30 PM) GM Meetings version: -Extend Samardzija QO, he rejects it -Decline Alexei's option -Resign Albers -Sign Nobuhiro Matsuda to 3 yr, $36 MM deal -Trade Fulmer, Danish, Trey, and low level arm for Jonathan Lucroy CF Eaton C Lucroy 1B Abreu DH LaRoche LF Cabrera 3B Matsuda RF Thompson 2B Sanchez SS Saladino BE A. Garcia BE Flowers BE Johnson BE L. Garcia SP Sale SP Quintana SP Rodon SP Johnson SP Danks CL Robertson SU Jones SU Montas RP Duke RP Petricka RP Turner RP Albers Anderson comes up and takes over at SS as soon as he's ready, Saladino takes Leury's utility spot on the bench. Jesus overpaid Christ that's a lot for Lucroy no thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 12:40 PM) Jesus overpaid Christ that's a lot for Lucroy no thanks! I was about to make a rebuttal... but then I saw Lucroy's 2015 stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) I was about to make a rebuttal... but then I saw Lucroy's 2015 stats. It's just way too much for him. I know we need a catcher but that's getting fleeced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 12:59 PM) I was about to make a rebuttal... but then I saw Lucroy's 2015 stats. Let's deal for Derek Norris instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 12:59 PM) I was about to make a rebuttal... but then I saw Lucroy's 2015 stats. His 700+ OPs despite playing injured most all season? His projections for 2016 are .279/.343/.435 and he costs $5 MM next season. He isn't going to be had for a song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 01:19 PM) It's just way too much for him. I know we need a catcher but that's getting fleeced. It's probably more in line than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 02:20 PM) His 700+ OPs despite playing injured most all season? His projections for 2016 are .279/.343/.435 and he costs $5 MM next season. He isn't going to be had for a song. But we also don't need to be raped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 02:20 PM) His 700+ OPs despite playing injured most all season? His projections for 2016 are .279/.343/.435 and he costs $5 MM next season. He isn't going to be had for a song. Lucroy is a great player, but that is pretty much cleaning out our farm. I wouldn't do it. Maybe Adams, Danish, and Montas. Keep Trey. Keep Fulmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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