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I think the FO will be quiet this offseason in comparison to last season, but I see two moves really helping this team be competitive next season:

 

1.) Go somewhat big with an offer to Ben Zobrist. I get it, he's old and people dont want to sign old FAs anymore, but Zobrist is a great solution to the Sox immediate problems. They need a solid third baseball that can provide both offense and defense and Zobrist fits both categories. In addition, he is a lifelong AL player, so he is already acclimated to the style of the league. This allows you to slide Saladino over to SS where his bat plays better. If Anderson is tearing up AAA, maybe he can be a late season call up in a playoff push.

2.) Trade for a catcher, preferably Austin Barnes. Tyler Flowers should not be a starting catcher next season. This position needs to be addressed and it needs to be addressed quickly.

 

Lineup:

 

CF Eaton

3B Zobrist

DH Abreu

1B LaRoche

LF Melky

RF Thompson

C Barnes

SS Saladino

2B Sanchez

 

BE A. Garcia

BE L. Garcia

BE M. Johnson

BE Flowers?

 

SP Sale

SP Quintana

SP Johnson

SP Rodon

SP Montas/Danks

 

CL Robertson

SU Montas (if not starting)

SU Jones

RP Duke

RP Petricka

RP Jennings

RP Albers

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I honestly have no clue.

 

We have one star on offense and then a whole bunch of average to below average. Yet the outfield is crowded with crap and hard to change due to organizational committments and money.

 

The infield...well, good luck. Everyone wants a 3b. We have 3 second basemen that each possess one great skill the others lack, and none are likely starters.

 

We need legit star talent. Plugging below average with average isn't enough.

 

I have no idea how you fix this. I look at the rotation and think we coul dbe the mets, but we aren't. Our pitching underachieves, our team tail spins.

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QUOTE (Dunt @ Sep 22, 2015 -> 09:55 PM)
I think the FO will be quiet this offseason in comparison to last season, but I see two moves really helping this team be competitive next season:

 

1.) Go somewhat big with an offer to Ben Zobrist. I get it, he's old and people dont want to sign old FAs anymore, but Zobrist is a great solution to the Sox immediate problems. They need a solid third baseball that can provide both offense and defense and Zobrist fits both categories. In addition, he is a lifelong AL player, so he is already acclimated to the style of the league. This allows you to slide Saladino over to SS where his bat plays better. If Anderson is tearing up AAA, maybe he can be a late season call up in a playoff push.

2.) Trade for a catcher, preferably Austin Barnes. Tyler Flowers should not be a starting catcher next season. This position needs to be addressed and it needs to be addressed quickly.

 

Lineup:

 

CF Eaton

3B Zobrist

DH Abreu

1B LaRoche

LF Melky

RF Thompson

C Barnes

SS Saladino

2B Sanchez

 

BE A. Garcia

BE L. Garcia

BE M. Johnson

BE Flowers?

 

SP Sale

SP Quintana

SP Johnson

SP Rodon

SP Montas/Danks

 

CL Robertson

SU Montas (if not starting)

SU Jones

RP Duke

RP Petricka

RP Jennings

RP Albers

 

That's actually a reasonable plan. If Sox aren't going to do much spending, that's actually a good plan. Zobrist would be good for the reasons you mentioned and catcher must be addressed. Might have to overpay for Zobrist. How much is the question.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 22, 2015 -> 04:06 PM)
I honestly have no clue.

 

We have one star on offense and then a whole bunch of average to below average. Yet the outfield is crowded with crap and hard to change due to organizational committments and money.

 

The infield...well, good luck. Everyone wants a 3b. We have 3 second basemen that each possess one great skill the others lack, and none are likely starters.

 

We need legit star talent. Plugging below average with average isn't enough.

 

I have no idea how you fix this. I look at the rotation and think we coul dbe the mets, but we aren't. Our pitching underachieves, our team tail spins.

 

Personally, I find Sanchez's second half incredibly encouraging. He has a .281/.324/.438 line and has played plus defense all season. If his bat can stay at a low to mid .700 OPS range, he's a 3-3.5 WAR player.

 

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QUOTE (Dunt @ Sep 22, 2015 -> 04:16 PM)
Personally, I find Sanchez's second half incredibly encouraging. He has a .281/.324/.438 line and has played plus defense all season. If his bat can stay at a low to mid .700 OPS range, he's a 3-3.5 WAR player.

 

I hope that is the case, and I hope he just is a slow starter after promotion.

 

But what if he is a player that has a 1.5 -2 month slump of complete futility, and then those numbers?

 

Overall, I think we will be fine at 2b/C, 2b we should see if we can keep a cheap player on their rookie deal, C I think will be too expensive and not provide the offensive boost needed (even if a relative improvement).

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Have no idea what they'll be able to do. Free agent list isn't impressive in the areas they need. They'll probably have less money to work with given season tickets holders, many, won't be back.

 

Still far to many black holes in the lineup. Starting pitching may be an issue as well if they trade Q.

 

Yet they'll try to sell the fans on the notion of "contending" next year.

 

Maybe the best thing they can do, maybe the only thing is to bring in an experienced manager who has won in the past and let him bring in his own coaching staff.

 

Maybe they can get more out of what the Sox already have.

 

That and removing Kenny completely from interfering.

 

Mark

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QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 22, 2015 -> 10:44 PM)
Have no idea what they'll be able to do. Free agent list isn't impressive in the areas they need. They'll probably have less money to work with given season tickets holders, many, won't be back.

 

Still far to many black holes in the lineup. Starting pitching may be an issue as well if they trade Q.

 

Yet they'll try to sell the fans on the notion of "contending" next year.

 

Maybe the best thing they can do, maybe the only thing is to bring in an experienced manager who has won in the past and let him bring in his own coaching staff.

 

Maybe they can get more out of what the Sox already have.

 

That and removing Kenny completely from interfering.

 

Mark

 

scandalous, he single handily got the sox the WS companionship

 

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QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Sep 22, 2015 -> 07:26 PM)
I would go after either Doug Fist amd signier, Bud Norris, Ian Kennedy and see if I can get them on short term (1 or 2 years) deals with the intention of flipping them.

I'd only do this if we trade one of our SP. It doesn't make much sense otherwise because you'd be blocking EJ and we need to find out what he is.

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No more "retooling" crap. Acquire as many prospects as possible via trades and draft picks. This team has wayyyy too many holes to fix this offseason. Can they actually think long term for once? As long as KW is in charge, expect another 'retooling' crapfest of an offseason. I have lost all faith in this team to make the right decisions under KW's "guidance".

 

The right moves: Fire KW and Robin and undergo a three year rebuild plan under a new regime (New President and Manager)

 

The most likely outcome after the season: Robin gets an extension. KW sticks around. Signs some overpaid veterans who will contribute very little in 2016.

 

Get in line for season tickets, next year will be different under Robin and KW. Whats the old saying, 5th year together is a charm?

 

 

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QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 22, 2015 -> 04:44 PM)
Have no idea what they'll be able to do. Free agent list isn't impressive in the areas they need. They'll probably have less money to work with given season tickets holders, many, won't be back.

 

Still far to many black holes in the lineup. Starting pitching may be an issue as well if they trade Q.

 

Yet they'll try to sell the fans on the notion of "contending" next year.

 

Maybe the best thing they can do, maybe the only thing is to bring in an experienced manager who has won in the past and let him bring in his own coaching staff.

 

Maybe they can get more out of what the Sox already have.

 

That and removing Kenny completely from interfering.

 

Mark

 

Trading Q and signing Smarj = 4 steps back.

 

I don't trust this organization with prospects unless they are ready to play. I still don't trust them with that. Maybe fans would have someone else to hate other than Javi. I'd rather build around Sale, Q, Rodon. Danks will be coming off the books eventually.

 

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