Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 http://m.mlb.com/news/article/151474146/ji...-most-potential Carlos Rodon at #9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Lmao, no, just no. He's so underrated. People look at his full season stats and think that's indicative of what he'll amount to. I'd argue that his stats since August are closer to what he'll really end up being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Rodon = new Quintana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 12:34 PM) Rodon = new Quintana? Please and thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 12:34 PM) Rodon = new Quintana? No. He'll get way more respect that Quintana. He was pretty much the consensus top player from last year's draft class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I too think Rodon's a bit low at #9, but at least he's ahead of Schwarber. I can't believe some people think we should have drafted him over Rodon last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) I too think Rodon's a bit low at #9, but at least he's ahead of Schwarber. I can't believe some people think we should have drafted him over Rodon last year. Should have, or questioned with hindsight whether they would have taken Schwarber? I questioned that, but that doesn't mean I think they should have. Just curious, who said they should have taken Schwarber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I totally recognize that this means nothing, but it was disappointing to me how all of the prospect writers were going crazy this year with the amount of call-ups of big talent, and how completely ignored Rodon was in that. It means nothing, but on the other hand, I like those writers, and I wish the sox gave them more to write about for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Buxton and Pederson are the only ones that shouldn't be listed higher than Rodon that currently are. Still, both of those guys are incredibly talented and the fact that there is only 1 pitcher ahead of Rodon and that he is one of only 2 in the top 10 speaks for itself. Position players are always going to be more valued and there are 3 SS and 2 3B ahead of him (positions that are desperately in need of offense around the MLB right now). I have no issue with Rodon at 9 and only Thor ahead of him as a pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 01:34 PM) Should have, or questioned with hindsight whether they would have taken Schwarber? I questioned that, but that doesn't mean I think they should have. Just curious, who said they should have taken Schwarber? Kiley McDaniel on Fangraphs said that Schwarber would go #1 if they re-did the 2014 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Honestly I'd probably take Schwarber over Rodon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) Honestly I'd probably take Schwarber over Rodon. Why? If he had any defensive value then I could understand it, but he can't hit lefties and would be our DH. After his hot start he's hitting .159/.278/.402 in his last 30 games with 40 Ks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Because he has 35+ home run power and there is nothing in our entire system that is projecting that except the lottery ticket that Hawkins figures it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 01:57 PM) Kiley McDaniel on Fangraphs said that Schwarber would go #1 if they re-did the 2014 draft. Ok. I'll be honest...I never heard of Schwarber on draft day, so I'm just glad the Astros and Marlins passed on Rodon. I think anyone else at 3 would have taken Rodon then too. The re-draft thing is a fun exercise, but there should be no regret with that pick. Hopefully the Sox get him to the playoffs sometime before he leaves in 2021-2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) Honestly I'd probably take Schwarber over Rodon. You're nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 02:07 PM) Because he has 35+ home run power and there is nothing in our entire system that is projecting that except the lottery ticket that Hawkins figures it out. OK but I don't understand how a DH who hits 35 HR would be more valuable than a top of the rotation SP who throws left-handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Hindsight is a beautiful thing. There would've been a ton of criticism and hoopla at that time if the Sox had taken Schwarber 3rd overall with Rodon still on the board. Then Carlos surely would've been picked by the Cubs right after that. If that happened, their rotation right now would be Arrieta/Lester/Rodon/Hammel/Hendricks We should be happy that we got Rodon just because they don't have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I don't understand the "hindsight" comments either. Even with hindsight we still take Rodon over Schwarber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 02:55 PM) I don't understand the "hindsight" comments either. Even with hindsight we still take Rodon over Schwarber. Exactly. I think that the Cubs would prefer to have Rodon over Schwarber even to this day. Their offense would survive without Schwarber and Rodon would make their rotation much better. Edited September 25, 2015 by Mike F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Hindsight would mean Rodon going #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 03:00 PM) Hindsight would mean Rodon going #1 Absolutely. It would also put Spencer Adams squarely in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 FWIW Rodon and Schwarber are the only two to make the top 10 from 2014 class. I think had Rodon stayed down in minors and dominated for a few months, was more ready for the majors than he was and put up better stats, then he would have been higher. In other words, this ranking is strongly tied to how they have performed thus far than what their true tools are. All of the other top guys have been hyped for years and have put up better numbers than Rodon thus far, except for Buxton, who definitely merited the ranking for his tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I don't think the Cubs even viewed Schwarber as the next best player in the draft. More like they took him to save money for all the high school arms they took in later rounds (Cease, Sands, etc). Not even worth debating Rodon vs Schwarber on the Sox, as Nola would have been the pick if Rodon wasn't still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 03:04 PM) I don't think the Cubs even viewed Schwarber as the next best player in the draft. More like they took him to save money for all the high school arms they took in later rounds (Cease, Sands, etc). Not even worth debating Rodon vs Schwarber on the Sox, as Nola would have been the pick if Rodon wasn't still there. The Cubs wouldn't have even taken Schwarber if Rodon had been on the board at their pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 09:12 PM) The Cubs wouldn't have even taken Schwarber if Rodon had been on the board at their pick. Nope, sounds like Boras was trying to make things happen for the Cubs to draft Rodon. Thankfully Hahn called his bluff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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